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One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by ck2 »

yxhuvud wrote: post #8
ck2 wrote: post #6

This is nonsense. Like people saying oh you can lose weight by being cold or breathing harder/more. Sure there is science behind it but in the end it does not promote maintainable lifestyles. One minute all out may help athletes already in shape push to the next level. Like at the end of my long distance runs, I do a wind-sprint all out. But regular people doing regular exercise benefit much more mentally from learni…

> Intensity training is good for fast-twitch muscle. Endurance training is good for slow-twitch. The two are not interchangeable. [Citation needed]

Fast vs Slow twitch has been understood since the 1970s.

You think a body builder could ever run a 10K at sub-6 mile pace or a sub-6 runner benchpress what a body builder could?

Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by xivzgrev »

Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick bait.

Its not exercise for 1 minute. Its exercise for 10 minutes, with 1 minute of that being all out. The actual comparison is 10 minutes vs 45, not 1 minute vs 45 as headline says.

I think author could have said as effectively 10 minutes of interval exercise may have benefits of 45 minutes of moderate exercise

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Post by ck2 »

WettowelReactor wrote: post #10
ck2 wrote: post #6

This is nonsense. Like people saying oh you can lose weight by being cold or breathing harder/more. Sure there is science behind it but in the end it does not promote maintainable lifestyles. One minute all out may help athletes already in shape push to the next level. Like at the end of my long distance runs, I do a wind-sprint all out. But regular people doing regular exercise benefit much more mentally from learni…

One of the largest challenges for regular people is finding 45-90 minutes to exercise in the first place. Research on shortening the length of time required for effective exercises is a worthwhile pursuit.

I might accept that but it feels like a cheating shortcut somehow.

A major part of long distance running (10k+) is the mental aspect.

You are never, ever, going to get the mental endurance and discipline to run fast for distance by running for a short period of time, no matter how hard.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ck2 wrote: post #6

This is nonsense. Like people saying oh you can lose weight by being cold or breathing harder/more. Sure there is science behind it but in the end it does not promote maintainable lifestyles. One minute all out may help athletes already in shape push to the next level. Like at the end of my long distance runs, I do a wind-sprint all out. But regular people doing regular exercise benefit much more mentally from learni…

>If intensity training for a minute was all you needed, you could do sprints in the parking lot to train for a 45 minute 10K. Good luck with that. //

That's not a logical conclusion. The intense workout is to achieve/maintain normal fitness not to enable someone to run a good 10k.

If you can achieve moderate fitness with an intense workout then it seems much more likely to me that a person with such fitness will choose sports or other activities instead of remaining sedentary for the rest of the day.

Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by bryanlarsen »

ck2 wrote: post #11
yxhuvud wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Intensity training is good for fast-twitch muscle. Endurance training is good for slow-twitch. The two are not interchangeable. [Citation needed]

Fast vs Slow twitch has been understood since the 1970s. You think a body builder could ever run a 10K at sub-6 mile pace or a sub-6 runner benchpress what a body builder could?

The [citation needed] was for your association between muscle types and training types. For example, it's also a common assertion that intensity training is good for both fast and slow twitch muscles.

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Post by [deleted] »

brightball wrote: post #5

I lost 40 lbs after high school by working out 10 minutes / night. Pushups til I couldn't anymore. Crunches til I couldn't anymore. Hitting a punching bag til I couldn't anymore and when that was all done, wall sits til I couldn't anymore. The first three I went as hard and fast as I could. Best shape I've ever been in.

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Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by cm2187 »

WettowelReactor wrote: post #10
ck2 wrote: post #6

This is nonsense. Like people saying oh you can lose weight by being cold or breathing harder/more. Sure there is science behind it but in the end it does not promote maintainable lifestyles. One minute all out may help athletes already in shape push to the next level. Like at the end of my long distance runs, I do a wind-sprint all out. But regular people doing regular exercise benefit much more mentally from learni…

One of the largest challenges for regular people is finding 45-90 minutes to exercise in the first place. Research on shortening the length of time required for effective exercises is a worthwhile pursuit.

And the other thing is to keep focused for 45-90min on a bicycle in a gym, with nothing else to watch than wrestling and Justin Bieber in loop. That's where the real effort is.

Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by Gatsky »

ck2 wrote: post #6

This is nonsense. Like people saying oh you can lose weight by being cold or breathing harder/more. Sure there is science behind it but in the end it does not promote maintainable lifestyles. One minute all out may help athletes already in shape push to the next level. Like at the end of my long distance runs, I do a wind-sprint all out. But regular people doing regular exercise benefit much more mentally from learni…

I don't understand your problem with the research/article. All they are claiming is that short intense intervals produce comparable improvement in aerobic fitness and metabolic variables as longer endurance exercise, in untrained young men. This is supported by many other studies.

It doesn't try to prove that they will be equally good at running 10K, or have the same 'mental' benefits. That's a separate issue.

Think about all the people that are unable or unwilling to exercise like you do. Is it nonsense that they could significantly improve their health with short intense exercise? Who cares about fast and slow twitch fibres.

Re: One Minute of All-Out Exercise May Have Benefits of 45 Minutes of Moderate

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Post by WettowelReactor »

ck2 wrote: post #13
WettowelReactor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the largest challenges for regular people is finding 45-90 minutes to exercise in the first place. Research on shortening the length of time required for effective exercises is a worthwhile pursuit.

I might accept that but it feels like a cheating shortcut somehow. A major part of long distance running (10k+) is the mental aspect. You are never, ever, going to get the mental endurance and discipline to run fast for distance by running for a short period of time, no matter how hard.

Training for long distance running is not a goal most people have. Discussions about endurance training and improving health of "normal" people are not the same discussion.
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