If this had happened a day earlier I don't think I would have posted that RFS. Apple is inching ever closer to evil, and I worry that there's no one within the company who can stand up to Jobs and tell him so.
Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Xerox management thought all of those things were just toys and that computers would never be anything but what they were at that moment. Reminds me of a lot of people who look at the iPad and say "meh."
Come on now. Please explain to me what is revolutionary about the iPad. It is 'meh'. It's just a big iPod touch. It's like a netbook or laptop but less useful. There's nothing revolutionary about it at all. It's a slightly slicker version of all the tablet PCs that have failed to capture significant market share for the last 10-20 years. It'd be easy to say "sure but you're a geek, you just don't see how easy to use…
The only thing I can say in response to this is that I see that my dad uses his iPhone to surf the web much more than he uses his computer, and he's interested in a bigger screen to do so. He's in his 60s, and he's actually not buying another desktop computer (his is 11 years old) because his iPhone does what he needs, and more, plus he's tired of viruses and spyware. (Yes, we know it's not a target yet, but a closed system does help prevent a lot of that.)
I see it as a step towards hurting Dell, who makes a portion of their money selling laptops and desktops to people who really don't need them, like my parents, grandparents, other non-technical people. It's also a step towards hurting the "PC repair" industry that charges these poor folks $150 to install and run freeware antivirus tools and "double your memory".
I think the lack of Flash support is going to hurt it the most, as the target market I'm describing are people who tend to use Flash a lot (think Facebook games and other online games.)
The iPad is aimed at that market of people - the people who use the Internet as another vehicle for entertainment. I've seen what the iPhone has done for average people, and I think this is Apple taking that a step further.
I guess I wouldn't say it's "revolutionary" but then again, I said that about the iPhone. ("it's just another phone, who cares?") And remember, it was pretty 'meh' before the app store.
I could be wrong, but I think it has the potential to be pretty neat for the average person. We need a revolution in that space.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple's success is based on its polish and attention to detail If that's the case, why can't they drop OS X and iPhone and simply make clones, just clones with polish and attention to detail? You want to have your cake and eat it too: You want Apple to innovate and you want everyone else to leverage their innovation freely. I understand why that's in your best interests, I can't figure out why Apple would bother if e…
"If that's the case, why can't they drop OS X and iPhone and simply make clones, just clones with polish and attention to detail?" I don't think you understand what it takes to reach apple's level of polish and attention to detail. They simply can't achieve it without innovating. "I can't figure out why Apple would bother if everyone else could "adopt" their innovation wholesale." That's like asking why Intel would b…
I think I do understand what it takes but you don't understand a rhetorical question when you see it ;-)
I also think people draw the line where it suits their self interest.
Re: Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Xerox management thought all of those things were just toys and that computers would never be anything but what they were at that moment. Reminds me of a lot of people who look at the iPad and say "meh."
Come on now. Please explain to me what is revolutionary about the iPad. It is 'meh'. It's just a big iPod touch. It's like a netbook or laptop but less useful. There's nothing revolutionary about it at all. It's a slightly slicker version of all the tablet PCs that have failed to capture significant market share for the last 10-20 years. It'd be easy to say "sure but you're a geek, you just don't see how easy to use…
It's the first tablet device that will have a large library of tablet-specific multi-touch software available. We've never seen that before. It's also the highest density multi-touch device we've seen on the consumer market.
Re: Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
#35If this had happened a day earlier I don't think I would have posted that RFS. Apple is inching ever closer to evil, and I worry that there's no one within the company who can stand up to Jobs and tell him so.
Apple has been evil since the first ipod when you had to use itunes to load music. They have locked people in with no cheap way out. Pure evil IMO.
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#36Which particular patents are in question?
Digital Daily has the documents http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100302/apples-suits-aga... Gizmodo has a summary of the patents: The ‘331 Patent, entitled "Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States," was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. The ‘949 Patent, entitled "Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interfac…
it really is amazing what you can get a patent for...
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#37Mobile devices is an incredibly patent-heavy landscape, where manufacturers are used to licensing technology from one-another and have been for years.
Obviously Apple and HTC have been in discussions (lawsuits are incredibly expensive and always a last resort) and the fact that Apple went ahead and filed indicates that these discussions failed. This means either HTC was offering less than 'market' in licensing fees, or Apple was asking for more. Which do you think is more likely?
Re: Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
#38Could suing for patents ever be considered a violation of monopoly law? (I know Apple isn't a monopoly.)
Re: Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Come on now. Please explain to me what is revolutionary about the iPad. It is 'meh'. It's just a big iPod touch. It's like a netbook or laptop but less useful. There's nothing revolutionary about it at all. It's a slightly slicker version of all the tablet PCs that have failed to capture significant market share for the last 10-20 years. It'd be easy to say "sure but you're a geek, you just don't see how easy to use…
The only thing I can say in response to this is that I see that my dad uses his iPhone to surf the web much more than he uses his computer, and he's interested in a bigger screen to do so. He's in his 60s, and he's actually not buying another desktop computer (his is 11 years old) because his iPhone does what he needs, and more, plus he's tired of viruses and spyware. (Yes, we know it's not a target yet, but a closed…
Why wouldn't a netbook+ChromeOS win?
I disagree @ iPhone. That was revolutionary. It was the first pocket webbrowser that actually worked well and rendered websites properly.
>> "And remember, it was pretty 'meh' before the app store."
Again, difference of opinion. I couldn't care less about the app store. Why would I download software approved by Apple, when I can just use the browser for most things?
Re: Apple Sues HTC for Patent Infringement
#40Could suing for patents ever be considered a violation of monopoly law? (I know Apple isn't a monopoly.)
By definition, patents give you a monopoly.