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Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by chillwaves »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #226
enraged_camel wrote: post #187

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What will funding them "fully" accomplish? Do you believe that their inability to catch terrorists is a matter of lack of funding?

This is like the time I asked someone on Reddit what they meant by funding education "fully." They said, "double." So... we'd be a world leader in primary and secondary education again if we just spent twice what we currently do? Well, I guess it was an answer. There are 2 kinds of people: those who think that more money will somehow fix everything (them), and those that think more money will only exacerbate the prob…

Ah yes, the thrifty conservatives that led us into the multi trillion dollar boondoggle of the Iraq War.

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Post by pklausler »

ringwalt wrote: post #357
geerlingguy wrote: post #80

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With the exception of Chicago, I agree. St. Louis, Indianapolis, KC, and many other airports have direct flights to most parts of the US (or connect through Chicago almost anywhere in the world), and I've never waited more than 20 minutes in the TSA lines. Due to the frequency of travel, I do have Pre-Check, but I hate that I had to pay extra money to get what I think should be the normal experience for all domestic…

Does any midwest airport outside of Chicago actually fly "anywhere you want to go", internationally?

Sure: MSP.

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Post by alxndr »

sib wrote: post #395
tlrobinson wrote: post #261

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My friend accidentally took a multi-tool through airport screening shortly after 9/11 and had to lawyer up to get the resulting shitstorm to go away (and he's white and an American citizen) On the other hand, I remember when I was a kid in the 90s and accidentally took my pocket knife (3" blade) through screening, and they found it but let me bring it on the plane...

I flew SwissAir first class in the '90's and they actually handed out branded Swiss Army knives to passengers on the plane ... The good ol' days.

My grandmother collected the silverware that airplanes handed out. Now we've got a pretty funny assortment of airline-branded metal knives.

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Post by ibejoeb »

PSA on "trusted traveller" programs: enroll in NEXUS.

It is the cheapest of the generally available programs at $50 for 5 years, versus $85 for Pre-Check and $100 for Global Entry. It is also the most privileged, affording all of the benefits of Global Entry and Pre-Check, and additionally allows expedited entry into Canada. It is available to citizens and permanent residents of the US and Canada.

The only downside is that the interview must be conducted at one of the enrollment centers that are in US/Canadian border cities (e.g., Seattle, Vancouver, Detroit...) or major Canadian airports, so you'd have to make a trip if you're not nearby.

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Post by cvwright »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #337
cwkoss wrote: post #316

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PreCheck line is almost always empty at my airport.

Indeed. They used to divert non pre check travelers to the pre check lane (I've been diverted before) but the article says they don't do that anymore.

That's the most frustrating part for me. Sending people through pre-check looked like a nice way for the TSA to save face, and minimize the hassle for the rest of us, without having to admit that most of their scanning procedures are a farce.

Now it's gone because they miss 95% of weapons that the auditors bring through. 95 percent! That means that, in the normal line, they're usually missing stuff. So what do they gain from stopping the free pre-check? Only saving face.

Argh.

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Post by kalleboo »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #299
sampo wrote: post #279

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> The transfer from Charles de Gaulle is a nightmare You just picked the worst airport in Europe as the example.

Heathrow isn't any better. Turns out most high volume airports are shitshows for international transfers.

I've only had good transfer experiences at high-volume Asian airports (Singapore, Bangkok, Beijing, Hong Kong)

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Post by imgabe »

gerbilly wrote: post #322
nommm-nommm wrote: post #277

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There is a huge difference hijacking protocol between now and 9/11. Post 9/11 passengers are not going to allow a guy with a razor blade hijack a plane, or even several guys with razor blades. Passengers and crew members now fight back and have the advantage of numbers.

>Passengers and crew members now fight back and have the advantage of numbers. Yeah, but what if _everyone_ on the plane were a hijacker? Wait...

The cockpit door is kept locked now, so it's moot. The pilot will land, SWAT team will storm the plane. Done.

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Post by kalleboo »

randyrand wrote: post #409
wutbrodo wrote: post #386

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Yea, and "most people" like racy pictures too. That doesn't mean news organizations like the NY Times that still have some dignity left to shred should start putting racy photos in every article. Just as "most people like stories" doesn't mean they should be quoting random tweets.

That's actually a good idea. I vote for racy photos alongside new articles.

The Sun along with their Page Three is that way →🇬🇧
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