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Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by TruePath »

Nadya wrote: post #251
stordoff wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> EDIT: Current opinion: still skeptical. Here is the public cryptographic "proof": http://www.drcraigwright.net/jean-paul-sartre-signing-signif... A little off-topic, but suppressing right-clicks (and trying to suppress Ctrl/Alt/Shift?) is a really obnoxious thing for a website to do. document.onmousedown=disableclick; status="Sorry, not sharing images!"; function disableclick(event) { if(event.button==2) { alert(st…

I don't believe the real Satoshi has any motive for coming public. As thus, anyone claiming to be Satoshi is not something I put any amount of belief into. As for your aside, not to mention it is completely and utterly futile. Hurts the normal user experience and accomplishes nothing for anyone who wants to steal the images. http://i.imgur.com/vYSRjrs.png

Umm, he obviously does. Money, fame and influence over future bitcoin decisions.

Imagine your Satoshi and you need cash for some reason. Reveal your identity and immediately get a bunch of offers for book deals and speaking engagements. You run into career problems, reveal who you are and you can probably snag a position as a Google fellow.

More concerned about your legacy or some crypto-anarachist vision? Revealing yourself could help you influence both the public policy debate on encryption and bitcoin's future (speaking engagements offer more influence than some signed messages on a mailing list).

Finally, what about credit for your contribution. Being known to your friends and family.

Sure, he may still want to remain anonymous but to suggest there isn't the temptation to go public is silly

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by rdl »

themusicgod1 wrote: post #163
mappum wrote: post #26

EDIT 2: Debunked! The signature in Wright's post is just pulled straight from a transaction on the blockchain. Convert the base64 signature from his post (MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VTC3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=) to hex (3045022100c12a7d54972f26d14cb311339b5122f8c187417dde1e8efb6841f55c34220ae0022066632c5cd4161efa3a2837764eee9eb84975dd54c2de2865e9752585c53e7cce), and you get th…

What do you make of Ian Grigg claiming to confirm Wright, having known him as part of the Satoshi team? http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001593.html

That whole blog post was weird. He made various assertions with nothing to back them up, and then walked back one of them. Everything he said could be interpreted as being from public sources (which he believes) plus a personal meeting, sans any strong cryptographic proof, with Wright.

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by TruePath »

kolinko wrote: post #112
bambax wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, absolutely. He apparently goes to great lengths to "prove" that he is Satoshi, but when asked to sign a new message, answers "I’m not going to keep jumping through hoops." Um, what? Signing a new message is a minuscule jump through a very large hoop, not something difficult or cumbersome or time consuming. This fact alone is indefensible, smells of fake and should be enough to dismiss the claim.

If you're using a given key daily, yeah, it's not a big hoop. But I imagine Satoshi having his key hidden on an offline computer right now, hidden securely. Taking it out of vault must be a lot of effort.

Which is exactly why you wouldn't waste time signing a useless quote.

Just sign a message attesting that YOUR NAME is satoshi. No more work. Done once.

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by acqq »

x2398dh1 wrote: post #269
acqq wrote: post #254

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It's of course interesting that these edits, which have the first sentence "Satoshi Nakamoto is the pseudonym used by Australian tech entrepreneur Dr Craig Wright, who designed bitcoin" did come from Australia! But wait, how do you get your location, that is, how does it actually point to Wright? I get that it's a range taken by vividwireless Pty Ltd, and different locations. Except for confirming "it's in Australia"…

My mistake - I had written, "Wright, Australia," when really it was, "Martin, Australia." Wires crossed in my brain when I did a quick post. Now it's too late for me to edit my above post. Thank you for the correction. http://whoislookupdb.com/iplist/180.216.116

Still, Martin is near Perth, almost 3000 km away from the location of Wagga Wagga of the https://www.csu.edu.au/anrl/people you've linked. Do you have any link between Martin near Perth and Wright except "Australia"?

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by baby »

um_ya wrote: post #227
acqq wrote: post #205

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His statement sounds fishy: "I was not allowed to keep the message or laptop (fear it would leak before Official Announcement)." But also from reddit: "Evidence that Craig Wright is not Satoshi: he doesn't understand selfish mining" https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hfyoo/evidence_th...

Not to mention the slight of hand with "signature" and "signiture" http://i.imgur.com/IPDPXZm.png

Yep, this is it, debunked :/

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by acqq »

nitrogen wrote: post #260
chjj wrote: post #120

This is absolutely fake and already debunked, as mentioned on the bitcointalk forums: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1457039.msg14728531#... The signature Wright posted is a signature from a transaction on the blockchain (and therefore cannot be a signature of a Nobel prize refusal speech or whatever other message he claims): https://blockchain.info/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69... The above tx's scri…

Note to mods: the really long signature line makes the page unreadable on mobile; probably too late for OP to edit.

It would be good if the HN software during accepting the post which contains "the really long lines" inserts automatically pre tags around.

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by elif »

nikcub wrote: post #118

I don't believe this for a second - and i'm more interested in figuring out how he duped two Bitcoin developers and some of the most notable news outlets in the world. When the link to Wright was first reported in Wired[0] and Gizmodo[1], after letting the news sink in for a day it was apparent that the evidence trail was an elaborate ruse. I don't know if Wright leaked the hack to the media (I think it was more like…

Postulation warning; The following is entirely devoid of evidence:

Taking for granted that Wright is not Satoshi.. How could a respected, crypto-savvy computer scientist become duped by an old sign(i/a)ture?

The obvious answer is that the con-man is a very good con-man, and i'm not writing off that possibility. But what other reasons could there be for his support?

The next possibility is that he benefits from having the media move on. For instance, It would help him to continue hiding the real identity of Satoshi. Perhaps he is even the cryptographer himself. Since he has other "experts" with him for the ride, he can claim ignorance and not suffer professionally if it goes south.

There could also be less direct political motivations for feigning belief. Bitcoin gains stability by moving the huge sums of early coins into a more accountable state than "these coins could crash the market any day now."

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by acqq »

elif wrote: post #278
nikcub wrote: post #118

I don't believe this for a second - and i'm more interested in figuring out how he duped two Bitcoin developers and some of the most notable news outlets in the world. When the link to Wright was first reported in Wired[0] and Gizmodo[1], after letting the news sink in for a day it was apparent that the evidence trail was an elaborate ruse. I don't know if Wright leaked the hack to the media (I think it was more like…

Postulation warning; The following is entirely devoid of evidence: Taking for granted that Wright is not Satoshi.. How could a respected, crypto-savvy computer scientist become duped by an old sign(i/a)ture? The obvious answer is that the con-man is a very good con-man, and i'm not writing off that possibility. But what other reasons could there be for his support? The next possibility is that he benefits from having…

> what other reasons could there be for his support?

The most obvious reason is simpler: Wright and those who accept his claims are "big-blockians":

https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/

"Matonis, Andresen and Wright are all big-blockians. Having the esteemed creator Satoshi on their side would help their argument, and it is entirely plausible that there are several large organisations who would benefit from having more control over the regulation of Bitcoin."

The same fact is also alluded to in the OP Economist article:

"It pays, too, to bear in mind that Mr Wright’s outing will most likely be of benefit to those in the current bitcoin civil war who want to expand the block size quickly, whose number include Mr Matonis and Mr Andresen. Mr Wright says that if he could reinvent bitcoin, he would program in a steady increase of the block size."

Add to that that there's this conference in NY today where Andresen repeats his claims:

https://vid.me/FhZu

Re: Craig Steven Wright claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto

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Post by elif »

cookiecaper wrote: post #199
dataker wrote: post #115

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That's an interesting position. The question is: why creating this hoax in the first place? If anything, the price of bitcoin has been negatively impacted by this. http://www.coindesk.com/price/ What would it be one's motivation behind this?

Let me put forth an alternate theory. Everyone is suggesting this is a scam for more money, which is undoubtedly the most likely explanation. However, I think an alternate explanation is that this may be a larger ploy to try to bait the real Satoshi out of hiding. Get him to say "No, that guy's a poser, it's really me." and while he's out, say "Hey man, what do you think about the blocksize?" This could explain Gavin…

I think the complete opposite would be true.

If there is an official narrative establishing a fake satoshi, the real satoshi would be over-joyed because this would basically ensure any further inquiry into his identity would be in the realm of conspiracy theory... leaving media unwilling to touch it.

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