Brazilian here.
I've always used Telegram for privacy purposes.
It was amazing to watch the flood of friends "just signing up".
WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
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Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's almost like Brazil is the most technologically advanced poor-3rd-world-nation I know from my brief time at Facebook, they use Brazil user-searches in their intro classes to tableau reporting on users' graphs - "show me everyone in Brazil who is 18 years old and posted about subject-X"
Samstave, Just a bit of nitpick to save you some trouble in the future. Brazil is not poor. Brazil is the seventh world economy, if you count the number of nations in north america and europe, being the seventh world economy is a great deal. Also the division in 1st world and 3rd world is schewed upon today. Its akin to saying the N-word. There are much better, non-pejorative terms to be used. Brazil is a part of the…
Not a "coup", you know that.
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's almost like Brazil is the most technologically advanced poor-3rd-world-nation I know from my brief time at Facebook, they use Brazil user-searches in their intro classes to tableau reporting on users' graphs - "show me everyone in Brazil who is 18 years old and posted about subject-X"
Samstave, Just a bit of nitpick to save you some trouble in the future. Brazil is not poor. Brazil is the seventh world economy, if you count the number of nations in north america and europe, being the seventh world economy is a great deal. Also the division in 1st world and 3rd world is schewed upon today. Its akin to saying the N-word. There are much better, non-pejorative terms to be used. Brazil is a part of the…
Great response! (Y)
Nice to see people like you here.
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brasil is the 8th economy in the world.
Perhaps the country has a large economy, but its people are being left behind. In the list of countries by average wage, they are 47th. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_w... And for the median household income, they aren't in the top 35, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income
The first wiki link data is weird. How is that even possible ?
25 Israel $1,804 26 Russia $1,800
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#45Not unsympathetic to the brasileros affected, but this is not the first time this happened over there - surely at this point the fragility of centralised platforms, and becoming reliant on them, is well known by now?
It also points to the fragility of Brazilian institutions.
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#46Unlike in N. America, in Brazil a lot of businesses depend on WhatsApp. You can talk with your doctor, call a plumber, claim insurance. On billboards no one puts a website address or an email, just phone number and WhatsUp. That's an economy cripling move and it's shocking how one judge can do it.
More important. Why aren't congressmen creating rules to prevent these monopolies ?
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#47This has nothing to do with massive surveillance, dragnets, etc. It's a simple and very specific criminal investigation where people have been found to be using WhatsApp to coordinate drug trafficking activities. The judge is just following the law and asking Facebook/WhatsApp to cooperate in identifying these people (and is being met with resistance).
Tech giants in this area are just facing their own karma for having allowed dragnets schemes to be used in their networks. If they had denounced those activities and continued to only allow targeted surveillance with a court order, we wouldn't have this trust crisis that prompts them to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
It's technically possible for these companies to come up with ways to identify specific people targeted by court orders so criminals can be identified and punished by their respective country's laws. They simply won't because it will be their word against the vast evidence that they have allowed dragnet activities in the past, which will cause a backslash everywhere.
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#48Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#49What most people outside of Brazil don't realize is that WhatsApp is almost universally used by Brazillians to communicate about EVERYTHING, even your doctor [0][1]. My wife is Brazillian and uses it to communicate with her family in Brazil every day. This will have disastrous consequences for Brazilians domestically and internationally. This policy is being put in place by unelected judges and cartel of monopolistic…
No, it won't have disastrous consequences. It happened last year as well
Typical authoritarian act by a lower court judge that will be reversed in 1 or 2 days
Nothing to see here
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#50What most people outside of Brazil don't realize is that WhatsApp is almost universally used by Brazillians to communicate about EVERYTHING, even your doctor [0][1]. My wife is Brazillian and uses it to communicate with her family in Brazil every day. This will have disastrous consequences for Brazilians domestically and internationally. This policy is being put in place by unelected judges and cartel of monopolistic…
It's almost like Brazil is the most technologically advanced poor-3rd-world-nation I know from my brief time at Facebook, they use Brazil user-searches in their intro classes to tableau reporting on users' graphs - "show me everyone in Brazil who is 18 years old and posted about subject-X"
Your comment was filled with the typical Valley arrogance and ignorance with anything outside of SoMa.
Not only is Brazil not a poor-3rd-world-nation, but other similar developing nations are by far more "technologically advanced" (e.g. China, India).