Is telegram also blocked, I think it sounds like a good alternative that people can use now, if it's not already blocked.
WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
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#22Would a p2p architecture thwart this kinda blocking?
You can't fix social problems with technology. The issue here is Brazilian law and the failure to understand the implications of encryption by the courts, not WhatApp's connection architecture.
Sure you can!
Imagine if Brazil tried to ban Bitcoin. How successful do you think they would be?
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#23What most people outside of Brazil don't realize is that WhatsApp is almost universally used by Brazillians to communicate about EVERYTHING, even your doctor [0][1]. My wife is Brazillian and uses it to communicate with her family in Brazil every day. This will have disastrous consequences for Brazilians domestically and internationally. This policy is being put in place by unelected judges and cartel of monopolistic…
It's almost like Brazil is the most technologically advanced poor-3rd-world-nation I know from my brief time at Facebook, they use Brazil user-searches in their intro classes to tableau reporting on users' graphs - "show me everyone in Brazil who is 18 years old and posted about subject-X"
Brasil is the 8th economy in the world.
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#24Keep electing terrible politicians Brazil
In this case the decision maker wasn't even elected.
Re: WhatsApp, Used by 100M Brazilians, Shut Down Nationwide Today by a Single Judge
#25Would a p2p architecture thwart this kinda blocking?
You can't fix social problems with technology. The issue here is Brazilian law and the failure to understand the implications of encryption by the courts, not WhatApp's connection architecture.
I assert, and I think many of us here are moved by the notion that, as time moves forward, technological solutions tend to be confounding for entrenched power structures and empowering for social liberation.
I don't really know how to parse "you can't fix social problems with technology," but I have much more confidence in the growing power of, for example, uncensorable media than I do in any fantasy of change in the nature of government.
My sense is that government will be co-opted by the rich to excuse violence against the poor, and that this rule will apply in proportion to the size of the government and the size of the landmass over which it claims dominion. Technology seems to be the cultural foil to this trend.
I think that "you can't fix social problems with technology" is too oversimple and too absolute to have real meaning in the current techno-political environment.
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#26Skype back in the day went to great lengths to be unblockable (mostly for commercial reason, there was a time before smartphones that people actually payed lots of money for international and domestic calls). It was pre MS.
Why are not the other messengers doing the same?
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#27What most people outside of Brazil don't realize is that WhatsApp is almost universally used by Brazillians to communicate about EVERYTHING, even your doctor [0][1]. My wife is Brazillian and uses it to communicate with her family in Brazil every day. This will have disastrous consequences for Brazilians domestically and internationally. This policy is being put in place by unelected judges and cartel of monopolistic…
It's almost like Brazil is the most technologically advanced poor-3rd-world-nation I know from my brief time at Facebook, they use Brazil user-searches in their intro classes to tableau reporting on users' graphs - "show me everyone in Brazil who is 18 years old and posted about subject-X"
Brasil is not poor, is F*n corrupt.
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#282nd time in less than 12 months. probably, we are going to see a surge in telegram downloads/usage today.
A true shame since Telegram is just as centralized as WhatsApp, minus the strong end-to-end encryption. Should it become the de facto messaging app for Brazilians, the next judge will just block Telegram instead.
But decentralized communication networks that work mobile first are hard, we all know it, so there's room for improvement, randomizing server addresses on a daily rotation, or whatever may render pointless these blockades.
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#29Anyone know how WhatsApp is being blocked?
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#30Is telegram also blocked, I think it sounds like a good alternative that people can use now, if it's not already blocked.
Telegram gets hit hard every time WhatsApp gets blocked in Brazil. It's happened 2x before (at least).