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Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Luker88 wrote: post #22
makmanalp wrote: post #9

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This is a great idea, and I bet you could raise a lot more than 3000! Why not just put this on indiegogo or kickstarter or some other similar trusted platform instead of asking people to just paypal you money? I figure many people would feel much more comfortable that way, and you'd probably get a bunch of publicity from just being on the site. I don't understand the point of the semi-secrecy. There's almost certainl…

Patreon is also an option, too. Are there public code hosting (gitlab?) in other countries, where the dmca does not apply? maybe something in Europe, where reverse engineering might be less strict?

DMCA is not main problem, for now.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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randommodnar wrote: post #20
throwaway7767 wrote: post #18

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Wow, you got an actual person on the phone? You got further than me when I tried to get back the $200 they stole from me due to "suspicious activity". I gave up trying to collect it after spending a bunch of time on it. They did eventually return it, more than a year later, with no explanation. Just suddenly my account balance increased. No interest payments for the time it was stolen though.

Why not take them to small claims court?

Yeah. We can still talking about paypal policy, instead of topic.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

Frondo wrote: post #14
skypeopensource wrote: post #2

Hello, I am Efim Bushmanov skype reverse engineer with first publish of original work on reversing skype client at June of 2011. And i almost done work on create open source version of "Skype Network Compatible" client. Some info about me: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/03/skype-protocol-c... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2611299 http://github.com/skypeopensource/ And now I need some help from commun…

Is there any reason you can't set up an Indiegogo campaign? It's going to look a lot more trustworthy than this page.

Because kind of this project.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

INTPenis wrote: post #19
skypeopensource wrote: post #2

Hello, I am Efim Bushmanov skype reverse engineer with first publish of original work on reversing skype client at June of 2011. And i almost done work on create open source version of "Skype Network Compatible" client. Some info about me: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/03/skype-protocol-c... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2611299 http://github.com/skypeopensource/ And now I need some help from commun…

I must re-iterate what others have said, I'd feel much safer donating money to you if this was on a crowd-funding service like kickstarter. I know it's petty but I'm telling you this for your own sake.

I dont sure, if will be ok to host some kind of this project.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

dave2000 wrote: post #17
mordocai wrote: post #11

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I -might- be interested but I refuse to work with paypal. Edit: Unfortunately, I also don't really do bitcoin and have never heard of the other two options.

Cash and credit card? I suppose you could always try offering him some chickens or something?

:))

Chicken or pork are also appreciated!

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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drdaeman wrote: post #23

Have you discussed this with a laywer? The problem is, as you reverse-engineer Skype and release source code that is meant to be liberally licensed, it still could be that the code would be practically unusable, due to possible legal issues. IANAL, but from my understanding of the law, this is even a gray area in Russia (local RE laws restrict on what you can do with the obtained knowledge, and the law's wording feel…

EU law explicitly allow reversing for compatibility issues. Which exactly what i am doing.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

Ameo wrote: post #25

This looks like a really neat project that could really benefit me (Skype is a buggy piece of garbage but it's the place where 90% of my online friends congregate). However, one big issue I forsee is issues with Skype changing their API/protocol and completely breaking the open source alternative. Updating would require a constant stream of development work which, if past projects of this type are anything to judge b…

Yes, your are right. Its kind of big risk. But we have some situation in past. It is ICQ vs Miranda case. And all still alive and usable.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

cyphar wrote: post #12
skypeopensource wrote: post #8

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"decompiled code" its hard to proof for DMCA. No, situation was simple, i upload hacked skype binaries in repo for easy distribution. And this is no-no clear case for DMCA takedown. So, it happens.

If you violate their license and use what you learned to make a profit, you're commiting commercial copyright violation. Which is a criminal offense. I don't agree with the law on this matter, but I'd seriously consider getting a lawyer before offering illegal services online. Also, why not just work on a free software replacement for Skype? That way people could use your code without being threatened by patent suits…

"and use what you learned to make a profit"

I am not. Problem was in different case. I should not post patched skype binaries, needed for reverse engineering. And its okay, what i will be shotdown for use it.

Re: Skype-open-source2: Call to donate

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Post by skypeopensource »

mateuszf wrote: post #10
skypeopensource wrote: post #8

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"decompiled code" its hard to proof for DMCA. No, situation was simple, i upload hacked skype binaries in repo for easy distribution. And this is no-no clear case for DMCA takedown. So, it happens.

What did the binary do? Someone could actually publish this via tor + torrent protocol.

I post links on tor... But ints not help much. Against be DMCA'ed.
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