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One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

Perhaps Austin is in need of an influx of new people to fix the problems you have been observing?

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

#92

Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

the grass is always greener on the other side.

Except for TX, where it is always brown unless you water it excessively ala Los Angeles.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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You can have good mass transit or affordable housing, but not both. This sucks.

>> "...but not both." What about Chicago. Way cheaper than New York, and has the second best train system in the country.

You can have affordable housing, good mass transit, and jobs. Pick two.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

> "I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping." This. This. This. A couple of years ago, I found myself utterly shocked by the price of homes in San Francisco. In a fit of frustration, I fired off a few emails a few random real estate firms in SF, asking one simple question: "Who the BLEEP can afford these homes?" You see, I was frustrated. I have a great j…

We made a pact with the devil when as a society we decided to believe that our primary homes would also double as investment vehicles that will appreciate in value and help us fund our retirement.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

Two doors from my house is a deluxe 3 unit condo building that has been uninhabited for years. Not once have I seen any evidence of anyone living there. The units went for little under $2 million apiece. It makes me wonder what will happen if/when China has a financial crisis and people start trying to liquidate their offshore piggy banks.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

> Until the South Bay gets serious about mass transit, merely adding more housing is only going to make the traffic pain worse.

This seems very chicken-and-egg. SF has a million dollars in its annual budget tied up in maintaining the status quo for homelessness -- if those people had homes, that money could get redirected into mass transit.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Also: Cleveland as well. (... jokes on me, you were all going to keep away anyway)

My nana tells me Cleveland is up and coming and that I should move back home. But Cleveland is a city that will always be "up and coming". Perpetually fighting the reality that they are one of the most average cities of all time. I love Cleveland and I am glad I was raised there, but I can't come up with a convincing reason to go back.

It has a weird gravity that tends to bring people back, but I agree there isn't a ton of incentive to come back or anchor here unless a great job opens up (which did so for me but ymmv).

To be fair, I think that all of the rust belt cities sit on an economic spectrum that runs from Flint/Youngstown all the way to Pittsburg/Chicago. Cleveland has teetered towards both sides at different times. It's trending towards a more healthy post-industrial identity now, but could really use a shake-up in the city leadership.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

> Literally broken windows

This would be a code violation. Neighbors would in theory be reporting it.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Perhaps Austin needs a lot of zoning laws and bureaucracy to prevent more people from moving there. Worked really well for SF.

Hard to tell if this comment is sarcastic or not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

#100

What's the number of people that want to move to the Bay Area though?

I'm thinking about moving to either Bay Area or Los Angeles with a family, from Prague. I have a 7 years old kid. I am not sure if that's the right thing. We're doing it for the climate. It's really difficult to find a warm English-speaking country where you won't be culturally isolated from the rest of the world. I can work pretty much from anywhere, however I am not a magnate. Things definitely to be missed:

- Prague's ultra-affordability (avg. salary is about $1,000/mo, so if you're selling to global market you can live with luxury) - travel opportunities--I'm in the middle of everything - proximity to relatives - great British school--very liberal, easy international atmosphere, we're lucky - overall "easygoingness" - full decriminalization (no problem in CA) - economically uniform society, although sometimes it's a double-edged sword - no requirement for pretending being a patriot

Things I will not miss: - very short summer, always feeling cold, gloomy skies - crappy food, although it's improving fast lately.

Am I crazy? Where would you move if you'd want a good weather? I enjoy Berlin immensely, but it's too cold. I'd move to London, but it's cold. I hate being cold.

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