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Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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7) Hang all responsible for the creation and continued funding of the TSA from low branches in the middle of Central Park.

The loss of life will be a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the person-hours burned by the meaningless and expensive folly that is airport security theater, I assure you.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Here's an awesome TSA story for you: Late last year while trying to fly out of LAX a TSA employee thought I was carrying a throwing star. They called the police, who correctly identified as a toy in seconds. I thought the whole ordeal was over until I got a "notice of violation" in the mail from TSA 45 days later. Now I'm banned from pre-check for three years, even though I have global entry and even though the fine…

What kind of toy was it?

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Body searches to travel without suspicion of wrongdoing are absurd, period.

Just go get pre check?

Why should we all pay more for a side line? Shouldn't the government make the main one effective ?

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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If a terrorist wanted to kill a lot of people confined into too small space to run away, what better target than these densely packed zig-zag queues? Really, what's the point of protecting a plane carrying hundreds of people by putting those same people into harm's way like that? It already happened in China - Muslim terrorists killed dozens of people waiting in a ticket hall a couple of years ago.

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> At the same time, he said, the number of T.S.A. screeners has declined by about 5,800 because of tighter budgets. The agency currently has 42,350 agents assigned for security checks. Such a monumentally wasteful jobs program.

The budget stuff is absolute BS. They were given more than they requested for 2016:

> "The agency charged with overseeing security at the nation's airports was given a $7.4 billion budget, which was $211 million more than it had in 2015 and $93 million more than was requested. The money, Klobuchar said, needs to be spent to hire more screeners."

http://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/2016/3/relief-at-msp-...

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Seems like a perverse incentive to let them slow down the lines so you have to buy a "membership" in their precheck program. "Nice flight you have there...be a shame if you missed it."

It's worse than just membership fees. To join a precheck program, you need to submit personal information that they constitutionally can't force American citizens to provide, even at international borders: fingerprints and retina scans. So basically they hold huge amounts of your time hostage in order to force you to provide what ought to be protected info.

It's similar to incentives for long-term contraception. The government can't fine you for not taking contraception -- that would obviously be monstrous -- but they can raise taxes and then offer rebates to people who submit to it. It's lunacy.

https://www.aclu.org/norplant-new-contraceptive-potential-ab...

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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I think Trump would abolish the TSA. Cruz has said he would, too. I'd like to see either one get in, though I wonder if the President should be able to just decide on his own to shut down an agency that Congress has approved.

Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them. It affects so many people you could probably get elected just on this issue alone.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Some suggestions for how to improve the situation: 1) Set up a large booth where people can sign up for the TSA pre-check program inside the airport, while they are waiting for their delayed flight, etc. 2) Institute fees for carry-on baggage and reduce fees for checked baggage to reduce the number of bags being screened. 3) Have a separate line for passengers with no carry-on bag that moves 5x faster. 4) Publish sta…

The best solution is to have everyone go through it. No fast lane, no special categories, just eveyone lined up including those in private jets. If the powerful had to stand in line with the plebes then the TSA would be history before the end of the month.
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