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The Feed Is Dying

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Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by ThomPete »

Hmm I don't understand the point of this article.

A feed is a feed. It doesn't matter how it's created. There is utility to the chronological feed as there is the the algorithmic.

Curation has been happening for a very long time. The problem is that it's not enough even to curate.

For those who experience the problem, the issue really is that they have so much information of potential relevance but still can't read more than one feed item at a time (unless it's just pictures)

http://000fff.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/model_01.png

This wont be solved by it being curated because that introduces another problem which is whether you trust the curation.

Not sure it can ever be solved. But the feed isn't dying. It's fundamental.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by r721 »

I wish services would be clearer with how much of content the user I follow produces on average. Let's say, I consume 1000 tweets per day on average, therefore I shouldn't follow someone who produces 500 tweets per day, and really think about following someone with 100 tweets per day.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by tehabe »

I actually get confused when I see something on Facebook which has been posted three days ago. Also I'm not really sure Facebook knows what I want to read. There is no "I don't want to read those posts right now" button.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by inthewoods »

It'd be nice if there was any form of data to support the position of the article. I know that among my non-technical friends there seems to be no worry about algo feed vs time-based feed - and there doesn't seem to be any slow down in their scrolls through their Facebook/Instagram/Twitter feeds. I get wanting to call a change, but lacking any data it's hard to take seriously.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by takno »

r3bl wrote: post #54
partiallypro wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But making the algorithmic feed the default, alone, is enough to kill the platform. For the mere fact of nudging, and human laziness. It will just make the shit rise to the top, instead of the hidden gems that make Twitter golden. Twitter has to be one of the most poorly run tech companies, outside of Yahoo. They changed their API token limits, and destroyed 3rd party clients. They bought TweetDeck and then utterly d…

Did Facebook figure it out? Because I don't see people actually browsing the homepage anymore. What used to ne an exciting way to explore stuff has turned into a bunch of pictures and a couple of Facebook videos ripped off from YouTube. I haven't seen anyone browsing through their homepage excitingly in a very long time. Now it's just a chat platform.

I still browse the homepage, even with the need to switch it back to most recent every other day when they try to sneak you back onto algorithmogeddoen.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by takno »

tehabe wrote: post #73

I actually get confused when I see something on Facebook which has been posted three days ago. Also I'm not really sure Facebook knows what I want to read. There is no "I don't want to read those posts right now" button.

What's even better is that I've almost always seen the 3 day old post (and often even liked it) 3 days ago, but it's apparently still the "most relevant" thing for me to see. I do wonder if I'd appreciate the algorithmic model better if the algorithms weren't just so damn bad

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by brlewis »

zippergz wrote: post #43
md224 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know... I unchecked that a while back and I still get annoying "while you were gone..." curated shit. Maybe I have to log out/in or something?

While you were gone is different from the algorithmic feed. It's a short section you can easily scroll past to get to the main feed. The algorithmic feed re-sorts the whole thing.

I think FriendFeed got it right with "Best of Week" and "Best of Month" that you could visit when you wanted.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by mrmondo »

I've seen a lot of this recently yet I find myself using and enjoying Twitter and RSS more than ever, not saying it's wrong - but it is an interesting outlier if correct en mass.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by karmacondon »

Going to use HN for some quick market research... would anyone be willing to pay for a human curated news feed? Say $10 or $20 a month for someone to go through news sources and pick out the stories that will be interesting to you, and potentially summarize them?

I'm thinking of curation based on a personal relationship instead of an algorithm. You would indicate that you're interested in machine learning, libertarian politics and cooking (or whatever), and people would check hn, new york times, etc and compile lists of those items. I know it's not the same thing as this post, but it's a problem and I'm wondering if anyone else feels it strongly enough to pay for a solution.

Re: The Feed Is Dying

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Post by berberous »

karmacondon wrote: post #79

Going to use HN for some quick market research... would anyone be willing to pay for a human curated news feed? Say $10 or $20 a month for someone to go through news sources and pick out the stories that will be interesting to you, and potentially summarize them? I'm thinking of curation based on a personal relationship instead of an algorithm. You would indicate that you're interested in machine learning, libertaria…

FYI, this is what Jason Hirschborn does with a number of verticals (fashion, media, tech, etc): http://recode.net/2014/05/01/read-this-jason-hirschhorns-new...

I personally have unsubscribed as I favor RSS feeds, but I recommend them highly for people looking for someone else to weed through the crap for you. He does a great job.

I don't think he's begun charging yet. I wouldn't pay. I suspect he could get a decent niche to pay though.

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