Craig Wright's signature is worthless
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Craig Wright's signature is worthless
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Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#2The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin.
Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility.
Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well balanced guy overal. He's not perfect but he's got a lot of credibility in the community and for good reason. And he spoke personally with Wright, and is completely convinced, both by the things he heard on a personal level, as well as proofs, neither of which he disclosed.
To me that's just bizarre. It's like Trump saying he'd be a great president and Obama meeting with him and saying he's the real deal, it'd just wouldn't happen.
Gavin apparently knows stuff we don't, and apparently it's proof, and apparently at the same time Wright chose not to go with that but to show a lesser proof which turned out to be bs. What in the world is going on?
edit: possible explanation, although I find it unlikely: Gavin was hacked. It's not my concern, but the core devs removed his commit access as a precaution which I think is sensible, so they're concerned Gavin was hacked.
The reason I don't this it's likely Gavin was hacked is because there was no play here. i.e. we didn't see Wright e.g. say 'I'm Satoshi, and I'm going to sell all my coins', thereby causing panic that hundreds of millions of bitcoins flood the market and crash the price, allowing someone (him/hacker) to buy cheap coins, get uncovered, and sell when the price reaches normality again. They'd easily make millions. But that didn't happen. And it should have by now, because within 24 hours (or realistically, an hour) a hacked Gavin would phone up other core devs and spread the message he was hacked, wasting the window of opportunity of the scam. So the fact we're not seeing a play here means there was no reason to hack him (or squander a hack), unless it was all set up as a big joke which doesn't look sensible either.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#3The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
Speaking as a complete outsider, Wright is coming off as a fall guy, and Andresen has been convinced to go along with the ruse. It's very much like they're protecting someone.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#4The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
Bitcoin Core developers appear to believe that Gavin's computer may have been compromised:
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441
> FYI, @gavinandresen's commit access just got removed - Core team members are concerned that he may have been hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#5The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
Bitcoin Core developers appear to believe that Gavin's computer may have been compromised: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441 > FYI, @gavinandresen's commit access just got removed - Core team members are concerned that he may have been hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707
Comment of the year:
"@Alex_Amsel @petertoddbtc @gavinandresen Nobody thinks to just pick up the phone in this space."
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitcoin Core developers appear to believe that Gavin's computer may have been compromised: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441 > FYI, @gavinandresen's commit access just got removed - Core team members are concerned that he may have been hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707
Comment of the year: "@Alex_Amsel @petertoddbtc @gavinandresen Nobody thinks to just pick up the phone in this space."
We don't actually have Gavin's phone number; he's not an active Bitcoin Core team member.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#7The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
Bitcoin Core developers appear to believe that Gavin's computer may have been compromised: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441 > FYI, @gavinandresen's commit access just got removed - Core team members are concerned that he may have been hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707
This hilarious! So someone has successfully hacked Bitcoin core's lead dev with the agenda of "appointing" Wright as Satoshi?
Most often than not, if the story is too convulated then the simple alternative offers the truth. Gavin is on it. I wasn't sure of it but since they played "His computer was hacked" card instead of "Sorry I messed up" then yeah there is something fishy here.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitcoin Core developers appear to believe that Gavin's computer may have been compromised: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/727078284345917441 > FYI, @gavinandresen's commit access just got removed - Core team members are concerned that he may have been hacked. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11609707
This hilarious! So someone has successfully hacked Bitcoin core's lead dev with the agenda of "appointing" Wright as Satoshi? Most often than not, if the story is too convulated then the simple alternative offers the truth. Gavin is on it. I wasn't sure of it but since they played "His computer was hacked" card instead of "Sorry I messed up" then yeah there is something fishy here.
Gavin is not, and has not been for many years, Bitcoin Core's lead developer. In fact, he hasn't even been a Bitcoin Core contributor for quite a long time now.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#9The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
The Economist piece alleges Gavin sat through the Wright's demonstration in person and attested it was legit. So either his brain was hacked too or the staff of The Economist is in far reaching conspiracy. Well or the whole hacking story is a BTC factional drama.
Re: Craig Wright's signature is worthless
#10The big question mark for me isn't Wright, it's Gavin. Wright has presented a bunch of bs, no definite proof, and has seemingly not wanted to sign recent or new messages with his PGP key. For all intents and purposes, he's got zero credibility. Then Gavin comes along. A person who worked with Satoshi the longest, communicated with him the most, led the project in practice for years, is a computer scientist and well b…
The Economist piece alleges Gavin sat through the Wright's demonstration in person and attested it was legit. So either his brain was hacked too or the staff of The Economist is in far reaching conspiracy. Well or the whole hacking story is a BTC factional drama.
Or Gavin just isn't James Randi, and wasn't prepared to uncover deliberate fakes.
Wright could very easily faked a demonstration on his own machine.
Last time, when Andy Greenberg (who ought to have known better, and in some ways looked like he did) bought the Wright story, I remember thinking maybe he did it for ideological reasons. I.e, he might know Wright isn't Satoshi, but be happy for attention thrown that way, because he thinks the real Satoshi deserves to be shielded.
As I see it, the strongest evidence by far is still for Nick Szabo, and I don't think I'm the only one who has come to that conclusion after looking into it.