It Didn't Start with You: How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are
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It Didn't Start with You: How Inherited Family Trauma Shapes Who We Are
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#2Glad to see this reach the font page today! it's little talked about, but how we grow up and the skills we develop to navigate childhood basically defines how we use and develop technology. it begs the question, what kind of technological and security environments will flourish as familial and childhood trauma become individually resolved on a mass scale?
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#3I'm skeptical that there isn't some undercurrent of suggestion in the way the therapist keeps pulling in family history. There's something of a just-so-story in how each of his patients seems to have some "inherited" trauma. I'm willing to concede that it's possible that this is the case, but the vignettes in the article involve no small amount of magical thinking.
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#4I'm skeptical that there isn't some undercurrent of suggestion in the way the therapist keeps pulling in family history. There's something of a just-so-story in how each of his patients seems to have some "inherited" trauma. I'm willing to concede that it's possible that this is the case, but the vignettes in the article involve no small amount of magical thinking.
I'm in agreement with jschwartzi, nearly completely. Skeptical bells pealing, in my head, as I read Jesse's story. Sympathetic to the idea, and also willing to concede this determination/diagnosis helped Jesse, mentally and emotionally. Causation? Or an effective treatment, with an unnecessary patina? I'd prefer more data.
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#5I'm skeptical that there isn't some undercurrent of suggestion in the way the therapist keeps pulling in family history. There's something of a just-so-story in how each of his patients seems to have some "inherited" trauma. I'm willing to concede that it's possible that this is the case, but the vignettes in the article involve no small amount of magical thinking.
The problem I see here is the over reliance on Freud and Jung and epigenetic. Freud's misconceptions aren't needed to explain how behaviour and anxiety can trickle down from a generation to the next and epigenetic has nothing to do with skeletons in the closet. Behavioural therapy, CBT and `modern` approaches do a much better job at modelling all this. (I wouldn't be surprised if we see more epigenetic and less quantum physics buzzwords in the coming years in those kind of books).
More importantly there's the question of whether it really helps to analyse the past in details to find a nexus point that would explain the patient's problems or not. Behavioural activation show some promises and good results and it almost doesn't explore a patient's past.
To be clear: I am not saying trauma can't make ripples through generations (on the contrary, I am inclined to believe it, based on literature and personal experience) but the model described in that article has shortcomings, relies on refuted theories and modern models explain things better.
On the other hand we know that when a problem is well defined (it's cancer, let's fight it!), external (I'll kick this SOB away so hard it won't ever come back) and random (I failed the interview because I was just out of luck) then the patient/person has a much better chance to rebound. So maybe the whole Freudian approach works as well for some as voodoo works for others. This is the placebo realm though and modern therapies have much better results than psychoanalysis anyway.
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#6Just leaving this here...
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#7My grandparents were taken away during the Cultural Revolution so my parents grew up alone. They never had any role models for how to raise children. At least that's why my aunt tells me whenever I complain about my parents.
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#8"A boy may have his grandpa’s long legs and a girl may have her mother’s nose, but Jesse had inherited his uncle’s fear of never waking"
Wait.. what??
How could Jesse inherit something from an uncle who had died before he was born?
This whole article feels too much like magical thinking.
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#9Just leaving this here... http://skepdic.com/ancestrallineage.html
Appreciate the context; thank you RichardCA.
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#10Ohm = mc^2 ?.... seriously?