Why you shouldn't exercise to lose weight

The best way to put this idea that I've heard is this: "you can't out run your fork"

That's no more of an eating disorder than the inverse: not having the mental power to acknowledge and respond to it appropriately.

Anyways, parent comment didn't say to starve yourself. It said to learn to be okay with being a bit hungry. Instead of learning to be okay with the feeling of hunger, people learn to be okay with the equally unpleasant feeling of being stuffed.

I just got a new girlfriend who is vastly overweight. I forbid her to "diet" but she's still going to lose the weight, because we'll start lifting heavy weights together. The only thing she has to do is make sure she eats enough protein. She can eat whatever the fuck she wants.

This is why this works.

Here is what happens if you eat 10 donuts under scenario A (the author's) and scenario B (mine).

So, the author's scenario (and by the way, from the author's lead[1] it totally sounds like she/they are people who have not figured it out. It's like following a Howto on how to compile your kernel, from someone who has spent years failing to compile a kernel.) So the author's scenario is restrict intake.

[A]

Okay, here's A. A is you restrict your intake to 1200 Calories per day. That's tough. We'll assume you succeed at following A. First of all you DEFINITELY will not squeeze enough protein in there. So your muscles atrophy. You will also be extremey lethargic. You'll feel like you're starving yourself: because you are. As a result, I guarantee your basal metabolism after all your muscles atrophy away will drop to like 1350 calories. You'll hardly move. But let's say you chug along at 1350 calories. That's a net loss of 150 calories per day.

Now what happens if you cheat ONCE and eat ten donuts. Let's say you put on 452 calories * 10 = 4520 calories. Divide that by the net loss of 150 calories per day while you were stuffing yourself with salad and the very very occasional fun-sized Milky way bar! Okay, ready? 4520 / 150 = 30.13 days. In a SINGLE meal, or a single day, by buying a dozen donuts ONE TIME -- YOU CAN RUIN AN ENTIRE MONTH DIETING!!! You can make up for a whole month of dieting. But remember, you've lost all your muscles cuz' you've been starving yourself, and totally demotivated and not eating enough protein, your muscles are all but gone. So when you fall off the track just a tiny bit, watch out. Cuz you're still only burning that 1350-1500 calories per day from your slowed down metabolism. POOOF!! Can you hear our [A] subject puffing up!! IT'S LIKE AN AIRBAG INFLATING. And you've seen it happen to lots, and lots, of people. It just doesn't work. What the authors advocate is stupid and wrong, and even when it works, even when the subjects never, ever, cheat, they end up looking 'skinny fat'. Not attractive at all. Even if you win against all odds, you still lose and look like shit and feel like shit!!!

Which is why I forbid my vastly overweight girlfriend (she weighs 22 pounds more than me despite being 5.2 inches shorter, and where I am well-built for my height) from dieting. She's not allowed to. It's the last thing I want her to do. Instead let's look at B.

[B] lifts heavy weights and makes sure they eat enough protein.

So subject B starts to work out. A lot. And still eat a lot, but specifically make sure they're eating enough protein. I'm not going to give you exact numbers because all I know is what works. Here's a typical daily plan for a muscle builder [2]. In my experience, if someone is going and lifting heavy weights, and building muscle, that just consumes so many calories. And it doesn't just consume calories - whereas in [A] the basal metabolism dropped to 1500 or lower calories, for the subjects in [B] every day just by existing and moving around living their life they're also burning 2200-2800+ Calories, or if they're a man, 2500-3000+ Calories. Then you have the actual work that you're putting INTO the lifting at the gym.

I forbid people to do any cardio or yoga or stupid crap like that. Only lift heavy weights. No, they're not going to start looking like bodybuilders. They'll just start looking great. All the celebrities do it, via personal trainers.

Okay, so to finish our mental exercise, now the subject in [B] is trying desperately to come up with 3500 Calories per day. They're working hard to get enough protein every day. Let's say they're eating, oh, I don't know, let's FUCKING DOUBLE the dieter's intake. We gave the dieter 1200 calories. We'll give B 2400 Calories. And then for shits and giggles they can eat a big mac every single day. Wait, no, let's give them 2. So we take 2400 calories, add 2 big macs[3] which is 257 calories * 2 = 514. They can eat two big macs every single day, or something else instead like chocolate or whatever the fuck they want to cheat every single day, day in, day out. I'm just using that as an example. So we add that to 2400, so 2400 + 514 = 2914. If they're lifting properly, that still comes 500 calories short of 3500. So they're STILL at a 500 calorie defecit, or, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE RAISING THEIR BASAL METABOLISM. They can cut the two big macs out and some of the cereal and crap and lose the extra bulked-up weight (using all the muscles they now have) in short order.

Okay, now we give [B] ten fucking donuts. What happens? Jack shit! They'll use that extra 4520 calories we calculated above in like 5 days. If they aren't having two big macs and a bunch of crap every day, then they could cheat and have ten extra donuts TWICE A FUCKING WEEK.

You jealous, A-team?

And what's more, if they succeed, they won't look like fucking shit! They'll look awesome.

So, yeah, the author is completely mistaken. Oh, and in case you guys think this is theory - it's not. I've gotten my friends off of fat-logic, and into a fucking gym a few times a week, and in a couple of months saw all of their fat totally drop away and see them become a highly attractive person.

I think my girlfriend is pretty attractive now, but she's overweight. She's not going to be in six months, and she doesn't have to give up shit to do it, just take half a fucking hour to exercise a few times a week and track her protein in her head to make sure she's getting enough.

Articles like this are part of the problem, not the solution. Take it for me, because people following my advice have actually done it (I was never very overweight but enjoy working out.) Don't listen to people who don't know what works.

Eat whatever you want, as long as you're getting enough protein, first, then maybe cut SOME of the crap (like 2-liter sodas that aren't diet and stuff like that) out. And go to the gym and get strong.

You'll thank me later. (Well, unless I'm hellbanned for going against fatlogic. But the numbers and actual experience of tens of thousands of people who have gotten strong don't lie. The article does, by telling you not to exercise to lose weight.)

[1] which I'll quote, you can judge for yourself:

>"I'm going to make you work hard," a blonde and perfectly muscled fitness instructor screamed at me in a recent spinning class, "so you can have that >second drink at happy hour!" > >At the end of the 45-minute workout, my body was dripping with sweat. I felt like I had worked really, really hard. And according to my bike, I had >burned more than 700 calories. Surely I had earned an extra margarita. > >The spinning instructor was echoing a message we've been getting for years:"

[2] http://dietcomedians.tumblr.com/post/86088489890/eat-massive...

[3] https://www.google.com/search?q=big+mac+calories

Or a new job is needed. :)

Of course this article focuses on cardio. It's almost become conventional fitness wisdom that cardio will not help you lose weight.

Weight lifting will also not help you lose "weight" but it will help you lose fat. Diet #1, lifestyle #2, weight lifting #3 (optional), cardio #infinity