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Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#81

It was super annoying to set up the OnHub. Instead of a standard web interface, they require installation of a mobile app.

I'd take that any day over the insecure, circa 1999 web UI on my Asus router.

There are many cases where native has advantages over web applications. Router config UI is about as far from that as possible.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#82

I tried OnHub, but unfortunately it didn't have the option to force 5Ghz over 2.4Ghz for devices without going through some hacks. Where I live, 2.4Ghz wireless has 10% packet loss on average, no matter which router I use. I'm happy that routers are finally getting the UX treatment they deserve, and their target market isn't for people who know the difference between the two, but OnHub should keep the nitty-gritty de…

Do you have a router that does this or do you normally just turn of the 2.4Ghz band?

On other wifi APs you can give different SSIDs to the 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios (and, on a ubiquity or other business-class AP, you can also add another SSID that spans both radios). Then you can have the client connect to the SSID which is available only on 5GHz (even as another client uses the SSID which is available on either).

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#83
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This relies on an internet connection, right? So many of these sorts of products do, and it is infuriating. It makes them utterly inapplicable for many environments. I'm building a home in a school bus. There will most certainly be times when I don't have a good (or any) internet connection, but I still want local and customizable automation. My plan is to just roll my own with Raspberry PIs.

I'm willing to bet that you represent a very small segment of the population and are thus not a target for this product. A product can't do everything and be the solution for everyone, each product has a target market and since you're in a niche, most products won't solve your problems.

Seriously... It's a router. Most people buy it so that they can get wireless internet. Needing to be connected to the internet for extra functionality isn't that odd in this case.

I'd be willing to wager that 98% of people who own one of these have a persistent internet connection.

If you live in a school bus, yeah, you're gonna have to make some compromises or roll your own sometimes.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#84

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The app also gives you insights into what's happening with your OnHub -- per device traffic sums, speed tests, alerts, etc. And we're constantly improving it. IMHO that's the real win with the OnHub; the router itself is constantly upgraded with up to date firmware with security updates and new features. And the mobile app that administrates it is constantly getting new features. Maybe I should transfer to marketing.

So, at the risk of sounding hostile, the article notes the following: Eight months later, the OnHub still doesn't support IPv6, and the USB port still can't be used for network storage. Bluetooth, Thread, and Weave support are all still dormant. IFTTT support is great, but shouldn't the priority for a $200 router be in delivering features that were promised from the get-go?

Google I/O is in a few weeks - is it possible this is a precursor to something more involving Weave and other IoT systems?

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#85

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I haven't seen my $50 Buffalo N300 since I bought it, flashed and configured dd-wrt on it about 2 years ago.

Your N300 is not getting security updates, but my OnHub is.

Pray tell, security updates for what?

My router has all WAN-side management features etc. turned off, WPS is turned off and it has a long random WPA passphrase. Unless someone breaks into my apartment, there just isn't a significant potential for security risks that I'm aware of.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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OnHub is one of the best routers I've ever owned. I've been buying custom router hardware for years -- I even went as far as building my own OpenBSD / PFsense router way back when, but nothing I've ever built (or bought!) has given me the same reliability / stability / speed as the OnHub. I'm seriously impressed with it. Also: the OnHub management app for mobile is AMAZING. It is so cool. Awesome product. Really grea…

Can you explain this further? I'm running pfsense now and it's rock solid. Always has been. So, in that case are you saying that onhub is faster somehow?

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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post #64

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Honestly Google's rep for discontinuing support for stuff is why I'm not interested in such a connected device. Will it continue getting updates after Google drops it in 0-5 years? Who knows. Will the open-source community be able to put OpenWRT on it or something to give it life after it can no longer receive firmware updates? Not sure. I do know that my current Ubiquiti and Apple network infrastructure devices will…

What reassurance does Apple give that Google do not?

History?

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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post #61

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You're not over Google Reader yet?

Well that and the Nest Smart Home hub they decided to kill off a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11423411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11435245

I keep saying this. People keep ignoring me, but it really does matter in this case. This only happened AFTER nest was no longer a Google property. To me the timing seems somewhat suspicious and I believe Nest pushed for more autonomy. They were never really integrated into Google proper. Their stuff runs on their on servers & software stack and their HQ isn't on the Google campus.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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post #77

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Have you ever measured combined power usage of your two devices?

In what circumstances do you foresee the power usage of networking equipment as having more than a notional impact on one's life? (Serious question)

For one: if you live in a place with unreliable power supply (as I do), it dictates how much backup time you get from your UPS.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

#90
post #61

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You're not over Google Reader yet?

Well that and the Nest Smart Home hub they decided to kill off a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11423411 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11435245

That story has already been beaten to death....lol.

Nest bought out Revolv - and then immediately ceased all sales.

They then kept the servers running for another 18 months, before announcing they were going to shut them down.

Revolv was an also-ran in the home automation stakes - speculation on my part, but there was probably a reason they got bought out instead of raking in the big bucks.

Let's say they sold a few thousand units - do you really think it's worth keeping it running indefinitely? A lot of those people have probably moved on.

I don't have hard data to back this up - but I have a growing suspicion most of the people shrilly screaming the loudest on HN don't actually even own a Revolv - the chances of them being one of those few thousand of couple is pretty small.

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