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Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by tobltobs »

chollida1 wrote: post #7

If no one has been to the site before here it is: http://www.zerohedge.com/ Believe it or not it has a huge following in the finance world due to it often being one of the first ones to break or provide color on important stories. It's not uncommon at all to see a row of traders with tweet deck open allocating a single column to Zero hedge, they are just that prolific with their output. The downside of the site is th…

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories.

No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

#12

Post by whatok »

tobltobs wrote: post #10
dmichulke wrote: post #6

Zerohedge is one of the most remarkable web sites today. I started reading it after 2009 and today it's (along with HN) my daily read. For me as a Westerner there are few places where I can read non-mainstream opinions on things like the war in Syria, the oil price and currency wars, the daily SNAFU in the financial worldlike Negative Interest Rate Policy (NIRP). To be sure, the headlines are often sensationalist but…

That is astonishing. If you remove the usual conspiracy theories and the right wing populism crap there is not much more left than you can read on bloomberg or any other financial news site.

That's completely untrue. Zero Hedge breaks news before a lot of outlets and writes on a lot of market events that other sources will not touch. I'm not disagreeing that you need to have a filter when reading but they absolutely do provide value.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by tobltobs »

whatok wrote: post #12
tobltobs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is astonishing. If you remove the usual conspiracy theories and the right wing populism crap there is not much more left than you can read on bloomberg or any other financial news site.

That's completely untrue. Zero Hedge breaks news before a lot of outlets and writes on a lot of market events that other sources will not touch. I'm not disagreeing that you need to have a filter when reading but they absolutely do provide value.

> breaks news before a lot of outlets

Any examples?

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by [deleted] »

tobltobs wrote: post #10
dmichulke wrote: post #6

Zerohedge is one of the most remarkable web sites today. I started reading it after 2009 and today it's (along with HN) my daily read. For me as a Westerner there are few places where I can read non-mainstream opinions on things like the war in Syria, the oil price and currency wars, the daily SNAFU in the financial worldlike Negative Interest Rate Policy (NIRP). To be sure, the headlines are often sensationalist but…

That is astonishing. If you remove the usual conspiracy theories and the right wing populism crap there is not much more left than you can read on bloomberg or any other financial news site.

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Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

#15

Post by whatok »

tobltobs wrote: post #11
chollida1 wrote: post #7

If no one has been to the site before here it is: http://www.zerohedge.com/ Believe it or not it has a huge following in the finance world due to it often being one of the first ones to break or provide color on important stories. It's not uncommon at all to see a row of traders with tweet deck open allocating a single column to Zero hedge, they are just that prolific with their output. The downside of the site is th…

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories. No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

Little old but this is the first example I could think of but this was absolutely not covered in depth by any mainstream outlet

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-26/coming-soon-theater...

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by maze-le »

I stopped reading this site some years ago. It had, and probably still has some interesting opinins and analysis. Most content is pretty far fetched / sensationalist, but if you have your grain of salt, this is not a problem, since most media outlets do this in one form or another.

About 2 years ago the tenor of the publications shifted from libertarian to more and more reactionary (bordering on proto-fascist). When I skip the articles nowdays, I think that the authors have no problem with authoritarianism, as long as taxes are reduced and social welfare is gutted (it is obviously not stated as such, but most opinion-pieces speak for themself).

I don't know what could have caused that shift, but I think you can generate more traffic and hence more profit, Lokey view on this explains a lot.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by shrikant »

tobltobs wrote: post #11
chollida1 wrote: post #7

If no one has been to the site before here it is: http://www.zerohedge.com/ Believe it or not it has a huge following in the finance world due to it often being one of the first ones to break or provide color on important stories. It's not uncommon at all to see a row of traders with tweet deck open allocating a single column to Zero hedge, they are just that prolific with their output. The downside of the site is th…

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories. No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

I can't speak to the "important" in that claim, but the folks at ZH have friends and connections in the world of finance from whom they can get leaked communications and reports.

For example, this post on Trump's nomination chances [1] draws heavily upon charts produced by Goldman Sachs, presumably for their clients only.

[1] http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-20/can-trump-win-gener...

Edited to add: I also know this because a friend of mine had their report leaked and written about on ZH, leading to a bit of a storm in a teacup at their workplace.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by runako »

whatok wrote: post #15
tobltobs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories. No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

Little old but this is the first example I could think of but this was absolutely not covered in depth by any mainstream outlet http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-26/coming-soon-theater...

This looks like analysis; did they break anything new here?

Also -- were they right on the analysis? The stock chart is inconclusive.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by rmah »

chollida1 wrote: post #7

If no one has been to the site before here it is: http://www.zerohedge.com/ Believe it or not it has a huge following in the finance world due to it often being one of the first ones to break or provide color on important stories. It's not uncommon at all to see a row of traders with tweet deck open allocating a single column to Zero hedge, they are just that prolific with their output. The downside of the site is th…

Regarding the "huge following"... Yes, lots of people read it, send links to friends, etc. But, most of the time those links are sent for comedy or shock value, not because people think it's serious news. To use an analogy, zerohedge is like the 4chan of the finance world.
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