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Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by randyrand » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 1:24 AM UTC

revelation wrote: post #44

randyrand wrote: post #37

Lots of misunderstanding in this comments section. Movidius makes low power neural network processors for mobile application. The Myriad V1 is used in google tango and the V2 (what the USB stick has) is used in the new DJI Phantom 4. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/16/11242578/movidius-myriad-2... The Myriad chips are interesting because they combine MIPI camera interface lanes on the same chip as a general purpose NN…

This is their own press release. What does that kind of hardware for CV primitives have to do with deep learning? (Also, of course, this stick doesn't seem to have any kind of connectivity besides the USB to the host computer. How do I connect my camera? Having to shuffle the data from a camera to the stick passing the host computer somewhat defeats the point.)

It doesn't defeat the point. You can still do development on it just fine.

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by randyrand » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 1:28 AM UTC

hatsunearu wrote: post #48

I don't see why you would need deep learning NN on a phone. If this is for CV, why not use the myriad DSPs from every silicon company ever? Seems like a buzzword fueled product.

Tell that to Google and DJI that use them in their own products.

They arent just for NN, they are general purpose image processing chips with NNs as one option.

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by randyrand » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 1:33 AM UTC

magicfractal wrote: post #39

You guys know if the Myriad V2 processor is locked (just neural networks) or it will be programmable?

Fully programmable.

http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/uploads/hc_archives/hc26/...

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by eggy » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 4:12 AM UTC

Can you connect it to a phone with a micro-B USB adapter, and then use it to run pre-trained networks with your phone's camera like I imagine it is used in thd DJI Phantom 4? I know the USB to the camera and onboard CPU will not be the same as the DJI's bus, but it would make for an interesting mobile testing platform for me to learn on.

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by NKCSS » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 9:56 AM UTC

eggy wrote: post #54

Can you connect it to a phone with a micro-B USB adapter, and then use it to run pre-trained networks with your phone's camera like I imagine it is used in thd DJI Phantom 4? I know the USB to the camera and onboard CPU will not be the same as the DJI's bus, but it would make for an interesting mobile testing platform for me to learn on.

Use a surface tablet?

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by lawlessone » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 10:52 AM UTC

tP5n wrote: post #24

castis wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I'll bite. Why do you think that?

their product is based on a buzz word and uses unknown hardware, the specs seem underwhelming (1W + usb = ?). their page is filled with videos of models and nature shots and a bunch of news categories that have a few articles from 2013/14. there's no way to order anything, yet they put out some wild claims: 'With Fathom, every robot, big and small, can now have state-of-the-art vision capabilities' 'It means the same…

Their hardware is integrated with many devices like googles Tango.

Re: A Deep Learning USB Stick

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Post by pietrasagh » Fri, Apr 29, 2016, 4:29 PM UTC

castis wrote: post #22

pietrasagh wrote: post #9

look like fraud

Hey, I'll bite. Why do you think that?

To clarify. I'm not expert (only wrote one thesis and designed nonlinear manipulator motion control system based on NN). But... Watching their video, as a noob, feels like drinking stream of bullshit from fire hose. If it really works and do what they claim - I beg, fire you marketing/media/whatever guy. It look like ad of self sharpening knifes.