As of this post, three of the 20 comments on this story conjecture that obesity plays some role, and a full half of the comments are on subthreads discussing this hypothesis. Interesting because I've never heard this hypothesis before and other online discussion of this article does not mention obesity.
It seems a little silly to me. Especially because when we talk about obesity, most people visualize morbid obesity. There are plenty of textbook definition "obese" people who can still attract mates.
Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
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Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#62The thing that will save the world from overpopulation- the internet. Both as a source of information, and perhaps as a way of abstracting social interactions that otherwise would have more opportunity to be acted out in sweatier ways.
I think low birth rates are doing that and those started with widespread contraception, not the internet.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
This theory doesn't make sense (and I read three articles that repeat what you say). If you use contraception, you won't have pregnancy. So why are the rates down? Health? Then why are 25% of kids obese (I looked up those figures). I can only assume that technology has created more social isolation.
Are you putting forth the hypothesis that teens are fucking less? Do you have anything beyond assumption?
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#64Right; once Facebook figures out how you can make babies while you're all alone, staring at your mobile device, that rate might be reversed.
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#65It's kind of like that (public) high school in the Midessa region of West Texas, the one that had an abstinence only sex-ed policy and a chlamydia outbreak. Or Mike Pence shutting down Planned Parenthood clinics in rural Indiana which led to an HIV outbreak (and Pence having to sign a needle exchange bill to limit the spread of HIV).
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#66Despite teenagers having mobile unrestricted access to all sorts of supposedly corrupting media available to them at all times, they still make rational decisions regarding their bodies. This is very encouraging to all those that value freedom.
This theory doesn't make sense (and I read three articles that repeat what you say). If you use contraception, you won't have pregnancy. So why are the rates down? Health? Then why are 25% of kids obese (I looked up those figures). I can only assume that technology has created more social isolation.
The reason some choose to enjoy food more than others have in the past might be just because they enjoy food and are willing to give up their health for the enjoyment of eating. I'd rather be obese than a teenage parent.
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#67Despite teenagers having mobile unrestricted access to all sorts of supposedly corrupting media available to them at all times, they still make rational decisions regarding their bodies. This is very encouraging to all those that value freedom.
This theory doesn't make sense (and I read three articles that repeat what you say). If you use contraception, you won't have pregnancy. So why are the rates down? Health? Then why are 25% of kids obese (I looked up those figures). I can only assume that technology has created more social isolation.
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#68A friend of mine grew up in one such fundamentalist community in rural Iowa; she married at 20, but some of her peers were already moms by that age. I wonder whether they include this type of parent in the statistics, or are they only talking about unwed mothers here?
There seem to be a lot of rural counties in the first quintile of teenage pregnancy, and I venture to guess that some of them, the ones not in large cities or general urban areas, are traditional or fundamentalist communities where teenage girls often marry.
Unfortunately, our socio-economic system (outside these specialized communities) is just not set up to accommodate pregnancy at the age when we are most fertile. It's too bad, given how many of us are delaying having children until our 30s, even 40s, and running into all sorts of issues for both the mom and the child; I have personal experience in this.
Anyway, this looks like a good trend, that kids are either finally "getting it" or else they're simply too distracted by technological toys to be fooling around like they used to!
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Education probably plays a good part in it. When I was growing up, and I'm only 30, we didn't get much sexual education in school, were taught to simply not have sex and many of my friends thought many untruths like pulling out is fine, douching is a form of contraception and even one unfortunate friend who thought ziplock bags were just as effective as condoms.
I am 35 and in the US we had very detailed sex ed including how to use a condom, how wide the contraceptive window was ect starting around 12ish. IMO, this is really more an issue with many local schools being horrible than anything else.
Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
> technology has created more social isolation This. If you think that technology has done a good job of informing teens about the risks of pregnancy and the importance of contraception, you are probably being far too optimistic in the face of a dire situation (i.e. mass estrangement).
> a dire situation (i.e. mass estrangement) I don't know - could there be some observation bias given the forum we're discussing this in? It also undermines digital relationships which have their own positives aspects. Here we are having a civil conversation about an important topic without having to commit to meeting at a certain time or place or without knowing what shared interests we have. The internet can act as…
That is a very interesting point, though I suspect we'll never actually be able to retire that legacy. If we do, I think it'll take at least a century.
Edit: honestly I think the social lubricant is actually pseudonymity, empowered by the network.