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Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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So, will the truth be known widely or will the broader population remember only the drone accusation? Cynic in me thinks this was deliberately suggested to make passing some drone laws easier.

Came here to say pretty much the same thing. It's a familiar old pattern: 1: "Thing" is developed which enjoys benign use amongst small subset of geeks 2: Military discover "Thing" and develop a way to use it for evil and/or killing 3: "Thing" gains in popularity amongst general public 4: Government says. "General public can't be trusted with "Thing". Thing is capable of doing evil and/or killing people!" 5: News sto…

I think in this case the story is different.

People have been flying models for a long time. But originally, model planes, etc. were expensive and relatively hard to fly. So people often knew each other and could have a mostly self-policing community.

Then quadcopter were made to be very easy to fly, and popularity made them cheap.

So now we have people flying them everywhere. Quads with cameras make people nervous. Quads flying over large groups of people, make people nervous. And quads flying very close to planes is just a very bad idea.

So it makes sense to have some rules. But governments go completely over board. And instead of investing in enforcement, they introduce painful administrative requirements.

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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post #3
post #2

So, will the truth be known widely or will the broader population remember only the drone accusation? Cynic in me thinks this was deliberately suggested to make passing some drone laws easier.

No one should be able to fly a drone anywhere near an airport. If the law doesn't exist it should anyway. This also isn't the first time this has happened / been claimed to happen.

I think the problem is that drones are very accessible for the general public, which isn't fully aware of all of the rules that the previous generation of RC aircraft hobbyists is all to aware of (e.g. in order to get a permit to fly with their club in a certain area)

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one should be able to fly a drone anywhere near an airport. If the law doesn't exist it should anyway. This also isn't the first time this has happened / been claimed to happen.

I think the problem is that drones are very accessible for the general public, which isn't fully aware of all of the rules that the previous generation of RC aircraft hobbyists is all to aware of (e.g. in order to get a permit to fly with their club in a certain area)

If you can't figure out on your own that flying drones near an airport is not a good idea then you probably shouldn't be allowed in public at all.

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one should be able to fly a drone anywhere near an airport. If the law doesn't exist it should anyway. This also isn't the first time this has happened / been claimed to happen.

What if they have clearance from the airport and/or control tower?

What size drones are we talking about here?

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Came here to say pretty much the same thing. It's a familiar old pattern: 1: "Thing" is developed which enjoys benign use amongst small subset of geeks 2: Military discover "Thing" and develop a way to use it for evil and/or killing 3: "Thing" gains in popularity amongst general public 4: Government says. "General public can't be trusted with "Thing". Thing is capable of doing evil and/or killing people!" 5: News sto…

1: "Thing" is developed which enjoys benign use amongst small subset of geeks 2: Military discover "Thing" and develop a way to use it for evil and/or killing That ordering is not correct.

In the case of multicopters, it is.

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if they have clearance from the airport and/or control tower?

What size drones are we talking about here?

Whatever the airport and/or tower cleared.

As long as they know, what difference does it make?

Re: Drone unlikely to have hit BA plane near Heathrow, government says

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Came here to say pretty much the same thing. It's a familiar old pattern: 1: "Thing" is developed which enjoys benign use amongst small subset of geeks 2: Military discover "Thing" and develop a way to use it for evil and/or killing 3: "Thing" gains in popularity amongst general public 4: Government says. "General public can't be trusted with "Thing". Thing is capable of doing evil and/or killing people!" 5: News sto…

I think in this case the story is different. People have been flying models for a long time. But originally, model planes, etc. were expensive and relatively hard to fly. So people often knew each other and could have a mostly self-policing community. Then quadcopter were made to be very easy to fly, and popularity made them cheap. So now we have people flying them everywhere. Quads with cameras make people nervous.…

>Quads with cameras make people nervous.

And yet people are fine with the government using the same if not worse. Based on those I speak with who hold such a double standard, there is a deeply held belief that it will never be used against them, largely because of their SES, race, and religion.

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