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After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #180

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This is not about me being forced to pirate anything. It's about offering paying customers a way worse service than people who just download a copy illegaly. It's not too hard to slap a PayPal or Stripe button in front of an HTML5 video with optional Flash fallback. But no, legal entities need to make sure that you won't rip them off with their digital rights nonsense. I understand that this is mostly a legal require…

It bothers me so much that I cant just go to gameofthrones.com, put in my credit card and watch the show.

Exactly. They try to sell you their HBO Whatever thing, which isn't even available outside of the US. The amount of revenue lost because of the unnecessary complex process is mind-boggling.

Also: It's not that piracy is without hassles. The piracy-process could easily be outperformed by making it as simple as payment button in front of a media player or downloadable file.

Because when I want to download GoT as a torrent, I have to install a BitTorrent client, I have to go find the torrent files, I must look at ads for porn sites, I often must find the right download button in spammy-looking sites, I need to distinguish which file I actually want and see if it's a fake or not.

The piracy process is difficult enough for most people, but it's still so much easier than the process of watching the show legally.

I simply can't wrap my head around this.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Imagine I live in Canada and one day drive to the US and purchase a House of Cards DVD, which I take back with me to Canada. Would you consider what I just did piracy?

No? Then why is it piracy if I do the exact same thing by different technical means? (Streaming the content instead of buying a physical disk)

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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The internet is a global connection where the concept of "countries" don't even make sense. They only exist on the internet, because we put them there. Packets don't magically change when they cross borders, why should the content?

The concept of countries makes sense legally and practically when it comes to licensing content. That's not netflix's fault.

They might make sense legally, but they don't make sense on the Internet. We're trying to patch our archaic rules onto it. Sorry laws can't keep up with technology, but tough shit to those trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

Also, while it may not be Netflix's fault, it's definitely Netflix's problem. They are the ones losing out on free money.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #155

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This time, I wanted to watch Game of Thrones legally – from Germany. The rights are with Sky Online, a 10 bucks a month subscription service. Sounds good in theory. I signed up and then: - I had to wait 25 minutes for the activation email - I activated my account, but it wouldn’t let me access my account settings for another 25 minutes - then I had to install Silverlight (I’m on OS X) - then I tried to start the stre…

Not only that, but the media players available let you use downloaded subtitles, in some cases automatically fetching them.

I have my media collection in Plex set up this way, subtitles are automatically fetched from OpenSubtitles.org for my entire collection.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #79

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Wait, you are justifying an illegal action of yours because it is easier than the legal route? Since when doing the right thing is and should always be easier... So, do you also not pay income tax because it is much easier to not do so? There are countless examples where being illegal is easier over legal, but as a society some of us understand that if the majority respect the law and order, we are much better off. I…

> I am amazed to read this under the caption of articles picture: "Netflix customer Susan Lorenz of Toronto doesn't understand why the company is suddenly shutting her out from the content she used to be able to see." ... Susan most certainly understands why. Later on in the article, it says this: ~~~~~ Because she pays for the service and has been able to skirt the rules for so long, Lorenz doesn't understand why Ne…

>> 'Understanding why there are content restrictions across regions makes no sense'

fix'd

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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I've been rather stunned at how no one has come up with a strong workaround to this yet. It's really quite simple, we just need slick, easy-to-use software for it. Make software that both turns your home computer into a single-user VPN server, that lets you set the maximum upload bandwidth to ~5mbit/s or so, and lets you only pass through Netflix content; and also gives you a VPN client that lets you connect to anoth…

This solution likely won't work because Netflix would do this: A) Tally up all the Account IP relationships. B) Perform an analysis on # of accounts per IP that exceed predefined thresholds. C) Scrutinize accounts who are using an IP that is swarming with accounts from other countries. Total cat and mouse, but can be automated quite easily.

> A) Tally up all the Account IP relationships.

In my scenario, it would be two accounts with two IPs each.

That threshold is way below something truly actionable. I mean, could you imagine? A guy travels and uses hotel wi-fi, perhaps internationally. Now he has two IPs associated with his account, and so they block/ban him. Not going to happen.

Hell, locally one's IP often changes thanks to DHCP leases expiring.

> C) Scrutinize accounts who are using an IP that is swarming with accounts from other countries.

This won't scale, and that's entirely the point. They catch ExpressVPN and co because there are 500+ accounts from each of the pool of ~20 IP addresses they have. They probably just block the whole subnet mask. VPS is the same, "this is a datacenter IP range. No customer is running out of a datacenter, it must be being used as a VPN."

But a guy's home connection of 50/20 mbit/s can only handle two users, and can't be flagged as belonging to a datacenter, and can't be range-blocked. I'm sure there will be cases of a person wanting access to 10+ regions, but for the most part, people just want one extra region. In my case, Japan. In most people's cases, the US.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #69

I've been rather stunned at how no one has come up with a strong workaround to this yet. It's really quite simple, we just need slick, easy-to-use software for it. Make software that both turns your home computer into a single-user VPN server, that lets you set the maximum upload bandwidth to ~5mbit/s or so, and lets you only pass through Netflix content; and also gives you a VPN client that lets you connect to anoth…

You've more or less invented Hola Unblocker with a few limits

The huge one being that your connection won't be used for illegal purposes. I would never in a million years operate what is essentially a mini Tor exit node.

And even the paid one way option ... there's also too many people on Hola sharing the same endpoints, and the threshold is high enough that many people are reporting that Hola is getting blocked as well.

The ratio needs to be 1:1. And if Netflix manages to block a user connecting from only two residential IP addresses, then the final step in this game is those two people will share their logins with each other. I connect to a Japan exit point, and use that person's Japanese account login; and vice versa. At that point, there is nothing left that Netflix can possibly do to stop me.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #81

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In my case, it's much more difficult to find Japanese series. Japan isn't nearly as big on file sharing as we are. Anime, sure, but I'd like to watch things with real people too. Example: try finding the live action version of Nobunaga Concerto [信長協奏曲] (not the anime that's readily available.) Now I'm sure someone here can do it. But look at its seed ratio compared to say, Game of Thrones or Last Week Tonight. And th…

Oh yes, I'm constantly clashing with unavailable/blocked Japanese content. Crunchyroll has quite a bit of non-anime content to offer, but it's still far from other country specific streaming sites. The oddest thing for me are the constantly blocked Japanese music videos on Youtube. I'm not talking copyright infringing content, but music videos published on the official band/performer's channel and being viewable from…

> Crunchyroll has quite a bit of non-anime content to offer

Yeah, they have a drama-only section that even then is 80% Korean (nothing wrong with that, just I'm not personally studying Korean.) And no option to turn off the English subtitles unless I want to watch movies on my computer instead of my TV. And absolutely, definitely, 100% never any offer for Japanese subtitles (closed captioning.) Very, very rare even on Netflix Japan, but it helps so much when I can find them.

> The oddest thing for me are the constantly blocked Japanese music videos on Youtube.

Yeah ... I don't understand that at all. Of all the countries, Japan seems to have the most obscenely strict copyright takedown enforcements of all. I pretty much always have to resort to torrents to obtain songs even remotely popular.

Japan really is a country that's stuck in the '90s. No surprise that also includes their views on music.

> Why is a music video blocked outside of Japan, when you can buy the song via the regional iTunes store?

I'm surprised they even let you buy it on iTunes. Apple must be forcing their hand somehow.

I've always dealt with extreme aversion to selling to me. The Japanese famously hate selling their wares internationally. It's pretty much a given that anything on Yahoo! Japan will be from sellers that refuse to ship internationally, so you have to use deputy services and pay them an extra 30% markup (plus a predatory and unfair yen exchange rate that's off by 15+ yen from the real market value.) And even then, there are sellers that track deputy IDs and will delete deputy bids. I've even come across one such seller, and my deputy of choice used one of their 'hidden' IDs to pick it up anyway. They're so used to it that they already had sleeper accounts for dealing with such sellers, despite having 100% perfect payment histories to sellers.

There are several major doujinshi websites for buying from artists, and these sites are 100% perfectly capable of accepting Visa cards from anywhere in the world ("it's everywhere you want to be... unless you want to be in Japan"), yet they block you anyway.

It was only just very recently that Amazon finally started selling new Japanese games internationally. Before then, I was paying 50% markups to small, sleazy extortionist companies. On top of having to buy Japanese systems to get around their region blocking attempts. Half surprised the fuckers don't try to use GPS to pinpoint you're not actually in Japan while playing their precious games.

Apologies if I seem bitter... it's because I am. I probably wasted $2000 on deputy fees alone trying to build a game collection and buy other items I like. And the harder I try to practice and learn this language, the more I get taken for a ride.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #221

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It bothers me so much that I cant just go to gameofthrones.com, put in my credit card and watch the show.

Exactly. They try to sell you their HBO Whatever thing, which isn't even available outside of the US. The amount of revenue lost because of the unnecessary complex process is mind-boggling. Also: It's not that piracy is without hassles. The piracy-process could easily be outperformed by making it as simple as payment button in front of a media player or downloadable file. Because when I want to download GoT as a torr…

You don't really have to do that just setup something like sonarr. Select the shows you want the episodes are downloaded as released and you don't have to visit spammy sites etc. It will check and download all the correct files and rename them to a naming convention of your choice etc. Setting up an app like that once is a lot easier than going through the hassle of drm or georestrictions. Netflix used to boast that with them entering the market piracy went down but now with georestrictions they will go back up.
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