Part of me wonders why only 6 years. It doesn't seem like someone who would do this has much respect for the sport.
Hidden motors in cycling: Van den Dreissche banned for 6 years, titles stripped
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Re: Hidden motors in cycling: Van den Dreissche banned for 6 years, titles stripped
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
«computers only use decimal points, not decimal commas» That's what localization is all about: eliminating these false assumptions. It's only confusing when you're not used to it. On a similar note, 12-hour time notation (eg. 3pm) is confusing as heck when you're used to 24 hour notation.
> That's what localization is all about: eliminating these false assumptions. I've never seen a production compiler use anything except decimal points. So writing code that outputs code must be extra confusing: Turn off localization for the parts meant for the computer, and turn it on for the parts meant for humans.
There's a distinction between literals used in programming languages and how various input/output routines emit different numerals. Most programming languages follow the convention: a '.' for a radix symbol and no thousands separator. Many programming languages also include: explicit '.' implies a floating-point numeral, scientific notation support. Most modern programming languages (and even some older ones) have standard library or extremely popular library support for localization. That localization will customize things like the radix and thousands separator.
Some languages support custom literals, so you probably could adapt it to match your locale if the grammar doesn't somehow become ambiguous.
Other interesting stuff literals sometimes include: different numeral bases, signedness, precision.
It doesn't seem confusing to me, but I'll admit that there have probably been many times that I could take advantage of the programming languages' support for parsing literal numerals whose format happens to match my locale's (en_US.*).
Re: Hidden motors in cycling: Van den Dreissche banned for 6 years, titles stripped
#103Why do they care about such a niche/illegal market, this idea is fantastic, imagine Boris bikes in London for example - they could recharge batteries when docked, it would be awesome to have this kind of engine in those tank-bikes. Extra points - please distribute heat on the handles because it's often cold. Thank you.
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#104>She also said that this bike was taken by accident by her helpers to the pit area. >She claimed that he had put a motor in unbeknownst to her What is with athletes and never admitting their mistakes. You were caught, I would have much more respect for someone if they just came out and said "Yes, I did it, I take full responsibility." Instead they come up with these ridiculous excuses that do nothing but continue to…
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I don't know about you, but for me it's pretty common to output numbers that I then use in the program. So you have to distinguish between output meant for a program and output meant for human. Say someone gives you a logfile of problematic transactions - you then have to convert all the numbers to decimal points before using them in some one-off program that checks them.
So you have to distinguish between output meant for a program and output meant for human. That pretty much defines my career, yes. Say someone gives you a logfile of problematic transactions - you then have to convert all the numbers to decimal points before using them in some one-off program that checks them. Say someone gives me a MongoDB full of transactions that need to be transformed into relational data for our…
Sounds like it's a bit annoying, but you just deal with it because you have to. I guess it's a slight extra use of time, but nothing major?
Re: Hidden motors in cycling: Van den Dreissche banned for 6 years, titles stripped
#106Are there any competitions where this sort of motor assist is legal? It seems like that might be an interesting sport.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_sport
You can get something like this already with trial riding or motocross races, where having a lightweight motorcycle is essential for handling in rough terrain and to take falls and jumps without breaking the suspension.
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#107How does the UCI enforce a fine? When you race do you have to sign a contract stating that you will pay any penalties, or can the fine be seen as "must be paid before competing again"?
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#108Yeah, but that's yesterday's news. Today had Marcel Kittel winning a snow-shortened stage in the Tour de Romandie and Sacha Modolo winning in the Tour of Turkey. Also, the guidebook for the upcoming Giro d'Italia has been published: http://static2.giroditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Gar... Looks to be a great race, although I think there's a risk that stages 19 and 20, which thread their way through the Alps on…
I used to really like to follow cycling -- I have now concluded it is the dirtiest sport there is. They are the original dopers -- note that the list starts in the 1800's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cyclin... e.g. 1930 "The acceptance of drug-taking in the Tour de France was so complete by 1930 that the rule book, distributed by Henri Desgrange, reminded riders that drugs would not be provi…
Look at how rotten soccer is from FIFA on down. Look at US sports where those guys were oozing steroids out there ears with basically no consequences.
It's just that cycling is kind of a working man's sport in Europe and is sort of caught in a no-man's land: it's not wealthy enough to buy its way out of trouble like soccer and US sports, but does have enough money to attract cheaters.
When the scandal linked below hit, all the cyclists got caught and punished (rightfully so!), but people in other sports? The judge has ordered the evidence destroyed!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_Puerto_doping_c...
This was roughly the time period when the Spanish soccer team was running away with all kinds of international success.
Cycling has surely had its share of problems, but it is also making a big effort to clean things up, with fairly draconian out of competition testing that would no way, no how be accepted by stars in other sports.
See also: https://twitter.com/veloropa/status/725359244443262976
And like the response says, the only reason soccer doesn't have a bunch more is because they don't test well. If there's doping in cycling, you can bet that, at 10X (at least) the money in soccer, there's some serious doping going on there too.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11581036 and marked it off-topic.
Sorry, I didn't expect the subthread to get that long.