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Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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Discussion on the source article from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11575550

Apologies for not seeing that.

I was actually submitting http://hackaday.com/2016/04/22/hackaday-dictionary-usb-type-... and realised that what had led me to look for that I hadn't seen on HN, and I trusted that HN dupe checker would just upvote The Verge one if it existed.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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If a phone only has one USB-type C connector on it, how will you both charge and listen to music with your headphones with it? Is there going to be two connectors, one at the top and one at the bottom?

Some type of chaining adaptor makes more sense.

And given that usb-to-3.5mm adapters already exist, I assume that if this happened, the appropriate adapter would appear on the market fairly quickly, so you could keep using your old headphones.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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If a phone only has one USB-type C connector on it, how will you both charge and listen to music with your headphones with it? Is there going to be two connectors, one at the top and one at the bottom?

A small USB type c hub, powered from the thing it's connected to. May be as small as a cable inter-connect 3 type c sockets, 1 for the phone, and one each for whatever you want to connect to. You could daisy chain these or have hubs that offer 1 in and 6 out, etc.

One that passes analogue audio through? Or one that has a built-in DAC?

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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As always, the problem is all those old earphones, headphones, and so on. The only chance of such thing prospering is if all those main cellphones come with earphones using such connection. In computers, on the other hand, I'd love to have a phone with USB connector instead of the 3.5mm. That way I could get rid of those noise (caused by motherboard consuming power in variables ways), without using my USB-soundboard.

The proposal sends analog audio out on the auxiliary pins, so adapters will be passive and dirt cheap.

Presumably this also means it won't fix the issues of noise mentioned in the parent comment.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How else is Beats going to sell you the same overpriced headphones for the second time in three years? Gotta think about those gold plated yachts and CEO salaries. Won't somebody think of the executives!

Please don't post these comments here. It's not relevant to tech discussion.

I'll agree the parent comment is not a good one, but Hacker News is absolutely a place to talk about things like CEO compensation. It is not a tech-only venue.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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99% of my complaints about the headphone jack could be solved by manufacturers simply making stronger plugs. Other than that I really don't see a persuasive reason to go through this change - requiring a USB interface will surely make earphones more expensive.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How else is Beats going to sell you the same overpriced headphones for the second time in three years? Gotta think about those gold plated yachts and CEO salaries. Won't somebody think of the executives!

Please don't post these comments here. It's not relevant to tech discussion.

I think analyzing the reasons why a technological change is proposed is directly on point. Yes, there are other reasons as well, but the benefit of obsoleting 50 years of headphones is a fantastic way to gouge the consumer.

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How else is Beats going to sell you the same overpriced headphones for the second time in three years? Gotta think about those gold plated yachts and CEO salaries. Won't somebody think of the executives!

Please don't post these comments here. It's not relevant to tech discussion.

oh yes it is relevant to discussion, much more than your comment for example

Re: Intel wants USB-C to replace the headphone jack

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The 3.5mm jack will be very hard to give up. It always works, and (usually) there's no interference / hiss.

I find that digital devices are complicated enough that, unless I'm buying well-researched, high quality products, compatibility issues lead to glitches. I still encounter lots of glitches with Bluetooth, so I'm not ready to give up my trusty 3.5mm jack as a reliable fallback.

Furthermore, things like sampling rate and bit density will actually make supporting this somewhat complicated. If it's locked at 16 bit, 44.1khz; then the playback device needs to have an excellent noise shaper and sampling rate converter to play thing like "mastered for iTunes" that decode to floating point and assume a 24-bit DAC.

In contrast, if the format allows any bit per sample, and any sampling rate, then lots of compatibility issues will arise on cheaper devices.

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