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The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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The most interesting recent Linux distro that I have encountered is Void Linux. It's a minimalist rolling update distro. It is not a fork of anything already existing. It is basically a demo for a new package manager called xbps. * http://www.voidlinux.eu/

Void is like Arch from back un the day. Currently running Void musl edition on one of my Pis.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

#52

I have finally found my sweet-spot between being a total neckbeard (Arch) and following trends (Ubuntu) by simply starting with a minimal Ubuntu/Fedora/Debian installer and then installing whatever desktop environment I choose (I like MATE because it's non-intrusive and fast enough for me). I usually use less than ~10% of the software that comes pre-loaded with most distros.

Arch, neckbeard? yea right.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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>Linux Mint Only if you don't value any sense of security

Could you elaborate on this? I know many people have security concerns about Mint, but I've never found their arguments entirely convincing. the opinion of the Mint devs seems to be that there's a stability vs. security tradeoff, and that Ubuntu chose one point on the spectrum, while Mint chose another. And that for a typical desktop machine sitting behind a router without a lot of ports open (or behind a corporate f…

This has been thoroughly discussed when the website was compromised.

https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11149839

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11142986

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate on this? I know many people have security concerns about Mint, but I've never found their arguments entirely convincing. the opinion of the Mint devs seems to be that there's a stability vs. security tradeoff, and that Ubuntu chose one point on the spectrum, while Mint chose another. And that for a typical desktop machine sitting behind a router without a lot of ports open (or behind a corporate f…

This has been thoroughly discussed when the website was compromised. https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11149839 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11142986

Yeah, I know about that. Certainly, not a proud moment in Mint's history, but it got resolved quickly. But I'm not going to rule out Mint just because they got hacked once. kernel.org got hacked, after all.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...over more modern ones. No, for many of us it is not about modern. I love modern. Ubuntus problem is they copied a bunch of Mac-isms for what seems to be no good reason. Now hear me out: I almost love Apple, I just cannot get myself to use their products (OK, did, three years, was happy to get a PC again) and there are a lot of things that should be learned from Mac. Out-of-the-box experience etc. Other Mac-isms…

> "I love modern. Ubuntus problem is they copied a bunch of Mac-isms for what seems to be no good reason." There is a very good reason for the direction Ubuntu went with Unity. The clue is in the name. The Unity interface is the way it is because it's designed to work on both large screen devices and small screen devices, and with mouse and keyboard and touchscreens. Take a look at the Ubuntu Touch interface, notice…

I agree with you, that's why Canonical did what they did. It's also why Gnome 3 is the way it is, and why Windows 8 was the way it was. But to me, it feels like a huge mistake in all cases. I use my desktop all day. I want an experience tailored to the desktop, not some compromise experience that's not-too-bad on the desktop and not-too-bad on a touch device. All these orgs made this huge bet that you could make a one-size-fits-all experience, and so far I'd say the results are not promising at all. Apple took the opposite tack: have a desktop UI and a touch UI, and allow them to diverge. And that seems to have worked out pretty well for them.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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post #17

i wish there was a distro that worked well with my hardware out of the box, preferably without any applications that i do not explicitly choose to install. i have no interest in setting up pulseaudio/alsa or having to set nomodeset in my grub config for the 20th time.

At least the kernel people still support nomodeset.

If the userspace people had their way, the option would likely have been ripped out long ago.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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>Linux Mint Cinnamon is the best operating system for desktops and powerful laptops. I will go as far as calling it the Mac OS X of the Linux world. Honestly, I had not been a huge fan of Linux Mint for a long time because of unstable Cinnamon. But, as soon as the developers chose to use LTS as the base, the distro has become incredibly stable. Because the developers don’t have to spend much time worrying about keepi…

> ...over more modern ones. No, for many of us it is not about modern. I love modern. Ubuntus problem is they copied a bunch of Mac-isms for what seems to be no good reason. Now hear me out: I almost love Apple, I just cannot get myself to use their products (OK, did, three years, was happy to get a PC again) and there are a lot of things that should be learned from Mac. Out-of-the-box experience etc. Other Mac-isms…

Funny, if anyone is copying the OSX UI it is Gnome.

Re: The Best Linux Distros of 2016

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been thoroughly discussed when the website was compromised. https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11149839 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11142986

Yeah, I know about that. Certainly, not a proud moment in Mint's history, but it got resolved quickly. But I'm not going to rule out Mint just because they got hacked once. kernel.org got hacked, after all.

You are failing to read the "thoroughly discussion", the hack was just the tip of the iceberg.

Also, kernel.org was hacked because a rootkit gained access to their servers, not because they used a weak password like `upMint`, so you shouldn't compare both incidents.

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