O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader • Hacker News Board

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:25 PM UTC

disposition2 wrote: post #112

greggman wrote: post #110

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I'm a newsblur user but it is in no way a placement for reader. For one newsblur will only track the last 30 days of posts (or is it 30 news posts). So for example in reader I might add site like Unity's blog. Reader would show the entire history as unread. I could then slowly go through all the old tutorials since they're all there. Newsblur I can't do that. It won't pull in stuff past a certain date/count. That als…

When I look at a feed with the 'All / Newest' setting, it is showing me stuff that is over 3 years old. Maybe just the view you are using?

Maybe the feeds you're loading still include posts from 3 years ago? So the posts are still being loaded recently.

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by komali2 » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:28 PM UTC

zanny wrote: post #97

TorKlingberg wrote: post #51

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RSS feeds were just never easy enough for most people to bother. And not just the proverbial grandma, most techies don't use RSS either. Sites will run analytics and see that nobody is clicking the feed button. RSS certainly solves a real problem, so I think there is an opportunity for reinventing RSS with better UX. Don't ask me how though.

How do you get better UX than clicking an RSS link and it adding itself to your feed reader? It isn't the protocol, it is that there is no profit in an open standard like that. Google killed their Reader because they wanted everyone forced into G+, rather than consuming content from around the Internet. It is the same thing with messaging and VOIP. Nobody wants to use an open standard like XMPP or more recently Matri…

By having your articles directly on your site, linked to via a "feed reader" that everyone already uses - twitter, facebook, reddit, etc.

I remember trying to get into RSS feeds a few years back. I passed them by - it was easier to just hit news.google.com or my multireddit or twitterfeed for news I was interested in. Sure, I didn't "get it," and yea fine I'm not the smartest guy ever, but I'm probably a good representation of the average net user - interested in efficient means at getting the news such as RSS, but also tremendously lazy. Why bother? I already have a twitter/reddit/gnews account.

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by user_666 » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC

fourneau wrote: post #104

wslh wrote: post #101

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Sorry, I don't agree: heavy Google Reader user and now a NewsBlur one. While I appreciate the NewsBlur existence it is very very very slow while Google Reader was extremely fast. I don't know if NewsBlur only retrieves my feeds when I start a request or if it constantly retrieves them on the backend. Disclosure: I have 2350 feeds in NewsBlur.

Is that... normal? 2350 feeds seems like an astronomical amount of news feeds. Can I ask how much of that do you read?

I have around 1500. Most are not active, though.

And I wouldn't take the claim seriously that Google Reader was fast with that many feeds; I found that GR struggled with that feeds: http://the-digital-reader.com/2012/11/01/i-broke-google-read...

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:36 PM UTC

acqq wrote: post #6

Why lamenting about one specific product, even demanding from the specific company to make exactly the same again? One company isn't the "internet." The comments here (by janvdberg and xaduha) show there are alternatives.

They had the only copy of a ton of defunct blogs and they just deleted them. That's not replaceable.

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by branchless » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:42 PM UTC

mwexler wrote: post #87

I too miss Google Reader. Feedly does OK, but is expensive. Of all I tried, however, it consistently was the least worst. Most of the replacements suffer from bad apps on at least one mobile platform I use, poor web experience, lack of speed (esp. search), and even lack of features (esp. search)... ...and all suffer from lack of leveraging modern text analytics. If I have overlapping stories in my feed, perhaps a win…

Why are you paying for feedly? If it's altruism, great, but what else?

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by wslh » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:46 PM UTC

inanutshellus wrote: post #127

wslh wrote: post #105

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Downvotes to this are very suspicious since it is a fact that goes in the opposite direction of other comments in the thread.

I suspect your disclosure (2300 feeds!) overly negated what would have been valid criticism of the tool...

No, how many e-mails do you have in GMail? Had this downvotes asked how do I use these feeds?

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:46 PM UTC

inanutshellus wrote: post #127

wslh wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvotes to this are very suspicious since it is a fact that goes in the opposite direction of other comments in the thread.

I suspect your disclosure (2300 feeds!) overly negated what would have been valid criticism of the tool...

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Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by wlievens » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:56 PM UTC

robocaptain wrote: post #84

I've been paying for newsblur ( http://www.newsblur.com/ ) ever since google reader bit the dust. It's pretty much a direct replacement. Interface has come a long way since day one and is sufficiently slick now (UI, keyboard shortcuts, etc) that I don't really notice it. Highly recommended by a (former) hardcore google reader user. If I recall correctly, got quite a good bit of press here on HN at the time.

Same here, I stuck with Reader till its final week and then switched to newsblur. Haven't regretted paying for it yet!

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by sk8ingdom » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 4:58 PM UTC

educar wrote: post #125

I use tiny tiny RSS and can whole heartedly recommended it. One concern is that their user forum is extremely hostile and the moderators thinks it is somehow entertaining to make fun of others.

I used tt-rss for a while as well and can highly recommend it. The forums are certainly hostile, but if you have a genuinely good question that hasn't been asked / answered before and thick skin, you'll likely get a semi-reasonable response.

Re: O Reader My Reader – Remembering Google Reader

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Post by wslh » Tue, Apr 26, 2016, 5:01 PM UTC

fourneau wrote: post #104

wslh wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I don't agree: heavy Google Reader user and now a NewsBlur one. While I appreciate the NewsBlur existence it is very very very slow while Google Reader was extremely fast. I don't know if NewsBlur only retrieves my feeds when I start a request or if it constantly retrieves them on the backend. Disclosure: I have 2350 feeds in NewsBlur.

Is that... normal? 2350 feeds seems like an astronomical amount of news feeds. Can I ask how much of that do you read?

I think this is a good discussion to have. One thing is to be subscribed to thousands of feeds from major media sites where you receive a huge amount of articles every day and another to be subscribed to specific blogs with sporadic articles. I have more of the later.

Only from VCs I have more than 200.