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The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
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Disruption nothing, this is going to be an economic apocalypse for huge swathes of the country. We've never seen an automation wave like this one. It's exciting times to be alive for sure but I'm also legitimately worried if we're going to be able to handle it as a society, if anything is going to tip us into needing basic income, this could be a serious contender. It's not even just the trucking, it's truck stops, h…
Yeah, it's not like this has happened ever before. We definitely need basic income. It will solve all the problems.
Correct, nothing like this has ever happened before.
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#363Here come the bevy of calls for basic income..
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there any evidence that a technology with billions of dollars in potential would not be used if it was only 99.99% ready? I feel like lots of dangerous stuff has been deployed when it was nowhere near 99% in the past, and I'm not sure why this technology would be any different. People talk about it like it's a lot different, but how safe are regular cars? Nuclear power? Coal power? Honestly I don't even know what…
Consider the politics of wiping out the biggest employer in 29/50 states. Can you imagine the backlash that even one death would cause?
What Uber did to cabbies, Driverless truck fleets will do to truck drivers
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#365+ AI is coming and it's going to automate millions of jobs (lawyers, call center, ...)
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeap. And if one of them hits you, they are liable. How many software developers want to be held criminally responsible for deaths? Some times we get so fascinated by technology, that we forget that the technology has to fit within human society. Remember the whole concept of product/market fit - if the market rejects the product: it doesn't matter how "cool" the technology is.
>How many software developers want to be held criminally responsible for deaths? Nope. Short of gross negligence in design, that seldom happens in any engineering field. How many people were criminally charged in the Challenger disaster? None.
7 people died in the challenger disaster. 30,000 people die each year in car related fatalities. Completely different order of magnitude.
Additionally, going up on a rocket is a fundamentally risking proposition done by adults.
Having a driverless vehicle that glitches, applies power instead of brakes, and kills a bunch of pretty young girls.... well that makes the 5 oclock news and 11 oclock for many, many days.
People get charged with crimes.
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#367This is one of those jobs that I can totally see being automated, and I really worry about being automated. If we automate the long haul truckers out of a job that is going to be a huge dislocation of workers. Further, what is their alternative job prospects? Even with free retraining do we have enough things for them to do?
I'm really interested in disruptive ideas that can soak up lots and lots of human labor at a living wage.
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I'm agreeing with you: Fewer cyclists would die due to automated trucks.
Cyclists tend to avoid freeways.
You can find quite a few videos on YouTube of cyclists on freeways. There is a video from a couple years ago of a bunch of cyclists holding up traffic on the freeway in Austin because they felt like riding on the highway.
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#369The demonstration in Europe shows that driverless trucking is right around the corner. The primary remaining barriers are regulatory. What about the roads themselves? I'm curious how an autonomous truck will handle a snow-covered highway, fog, potholes, and tight corners caused by narrow roads, bad parking, snow banks, etc. This is a way of life where I live (Boston area). The article about the Russian driverless van…
"What about the roads themselves? I'm curious how an autonomous truck will handle a snow-covered highway, fog, potholes, and tight corners caused by narrow roads, bad parking, snow banks, etc." It won't; at least, it won't need to handle narrow roads, bad parking, snow banks, etc. The autonomous truck need not drive the whole route that a human driver does now. Drive down the Ohio Turnpike and you will see numerous p…
> The autonomous truck need not drive the whole route that a human driver does now.
Exactly. They'll be more like trains than trucks as we know them; they'll simply have more tracks available.
Re: The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automate millions of jobs
#370Code generation and Computer Aided Software Engineering is also "coming" and will make the lowly developer and programmer obsolete. Too bad that the 80 / 20 split does not quite work for things people pay for and rely on.
That's because we're trying to do more. If we were just trying to solve the same old problems as in 1970, then we wouldn't need as many programmers as we have now.
Once trucks can drive autonomously, once it's a solved problem, what more is there to do within that vertical?