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After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by Gmo »

richmarr wrote: post #18
wjoe wrote: post #13

Regional rights agreements are really slowing down the move of TV to online. Publishers say "well, we already signed these agreements with these TV companies, so we can't let this shows be streamed online in those countries". TV companies say "well, we only got the rights to broadcast on TV, so we can't stream the show online in this country". Hopefully as the popularity of online streaming increases, new contracts w…

> There's no real reason to have regional restrictions online... While I broadly agree with you I don't buy this one point. By restricting availability by region, publishers can (a) spread out their promotion costs & reduce risk exposure, and (b) charge more. Wearing my techno-utopian hat, the first reason is bullshit that nees solving and the second reason is greed. Wearing my realist hat, both reasons are the way t…

They kind of do. At least in France, until about a month ago, you could not watch House of Cards on Netflix because the show was sold to a local network !

It's been "fixed" now though.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by danmaz74 »

distances wrote: post #16
Geojim wrote: post #4

Puts pressure back on regional rights holders to sign on with Netflix - join the dominant market player and make a few bucks, or see your content pirated and get nothing

The whole deal system is a problem here. In Germany even the latest season of House of Cards isn't available, and that's their own production.

Production that, I'm pretty sure, they sold to some German network for more than it would bring in on Netflix itself... gotta love economics!

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Post by tokenizerrr »

wjoe wrote: post #13

Regional rights agreements are really slowing down the move of TV to online. Publishers say "well, we already signed these agreements with these TV companies, so we can't let this shows be streamed online in those countries". TV companies say "well, we only got the rights to broadcast on TV, so we can't stream the show online in this country". Hopefully as the popularity of online streaming increases, new contracts w…

And even

> "well, we only got the rights to broadcast on TV, so we can't stream the show online in this country".

Is horrendous. Because then you wind up with 10 different streaming services, all charging you the same (or more) as netflix.

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Post by slowmotiony »

danmaz74 wrote: post #22
distances wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole deal system is a problem here. In Germany even the latest season of House of Cards isn't available, and that's their own production.

Production that, I'm pretty sure, they sold to some German network for more than it would bring in on Netflix itself... gotta love economics!

Yup, sold to Sky.

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Post by sgift »

The only reason I subscribed to Netflix was that it was the best way to get Warehouse 13, which I really wanted to see at the time. For now Netflix still has enough content to satisfy me, but the idea that the library is so much smaller here in Germany than in the U.S. was never to my liking .. Greedy companies force Netflix to block customers, customers pirate content instead, all loose. One would think Hollywood learned their lesson, just as the music industry did, but it doesn't look that way. Maybe one day they'll find out that the correct solution if you ran against a wall is not do it again and hope that the wall falls, but to go around it.

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Post by secoif »

Same issue in Singapore. The Netflix library available here doesn't even contain the latest season of House of Cards – and it's a bloody Netflix production.

I would love to pay someone for timely content, but now that Netflix is blocking vpn access there is literally nobody to pay. It's complete madness.

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Post by themartorana »

sgift wrote: post #25

The only reason I subscribed to Netflix was that it was the best way to get Warehouse 13, which I really wanted to see at the time. For now Netflix still has enough content to satisfy me, but the idea that the library is so much smaller here in Germany than in the U.S. was never to my liking .. Greedy companies force Netflix to block customers, customers pirate content instead, all loose. One would think Hollywood le…

It's never been well explained to me how this is a profitable model, especially considering the ease with which popular shows are pirated - in full HD and digital sound I might add. What do studios really stand to gain by keeping Germany et al from so much content?

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Post by omegant »

superuser2 wrote: post #7
cylinder wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that blocking even work? How does nflx know I'm using a VPN?

Many users on the same IP, IP is registered to a cloud hosting company, etc. They'll never have perfect detection but you can do pretty well without much effort.

Startup idea, airbnb of VPNs. Normal people distributing a limited number of other peoples, VPNs for a small fare.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by omegant »

Ralfp wrote: post #14
user10001 wrote: post #11

Hollywood movies are such shit these days, I wouldn't even watch most of them for free.

Nobody is forcing you to. Plenty of folk have Netflix for access to favorite classics or TV series when they have time to. New titles are only added value for them.

In Spain Netflix has a VERY limited classic (or contemporary for that matter) catalog. Is only worth paying it for series IMHO.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by sgift »

themartorana wrote: post #27
sgift wrote: post #25

The only reason I subscribed to Netflix was that it was the best way to get Warehouse 13, which I really wanted to see at the time. For now Netflix still has enough content to satisfy me, but the idea that the library is so much smaller here in Germany than in the U.S. was never to my liking .. Greedy companies force Netflix to block customers, customers pirate content instead, all loose. One would think Hollywood le…

It's never been well explained to me how this is a profitable model, especially considering the ease with which popular shows are pirated - in full HD and digital sound I might add. What do studios really stand to gain by keeping Germany et al from so much content?

They sell it over different channels (Amazon Prime, DVD, etc.) and somehow seem to think that people will use more than one to get all content they want. They probably do this to get better rates from Netflix, e.g. "You know, if you don't pay us x we can always give our content someone else". To me this sounds like madness, I would never use multiple streaming services, but I'm not an Hollywood exec, so maybe there is some method to the madness that I'm not able to see.
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