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Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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Isn't that Sandstorm's usecase... more or less?

Interesting, this is the first time I'm reading about it [1]. Well, if anything it looks like a web app would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to fit that model. I haven't yet read much about it, but here's a few questions that pop up immediately: 1) If you have a container per data object, doesn't that mean you also have to start a process every time a user opens a document? So forget about doing any computatio…

> it looks like a web app would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to fit that model.

Not at all! The app market is full of apps that were not originally written for Sandstorm:

https://apps.sandstorm.io/

Examples: Wekan, Etherpad, Rocket.Chat, EtherCalc, draw.io, Gogs, Dillinger, NodeBB, EtherDraw, ...

It turns out that converting a web app to Sandstorm is mostly deleting code. You delete your user management, your collection management, your access control, etc. What you have left is the essence of your app -- the UX for manipulating your core data model, of which you now only need to worry about one instance.

> doesn't that mean you also have to start a process every time a user opens a document?

Most apps we've encountered only take a couple seconds to start. But we're working on a trick where we snapshot the process after startup and start each grain from the snapshot, thus essentially optimizing away any startup-time slowness.

> How do you handle indexes, views and collections over a large set of data objects?

Sandstorm is (currently) designed for productivity apps, not for "big data" processing. The data within a single grain is usually small. That said, you can run whatever database you want inside the grain.

(I'm the tech lead of Sandstorm.)

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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Can anybody in HN provide a quickpath into the beta? I signed up when it was first announced (seems to be over 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352389 ) but haven't heard anything back yet.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Would love to be fast tracked, if possible. Thanks for doing this.

Docker ID: rockymadden

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Can anybody in HN provide a quickpath into the beta? I signed up when it was first announced (seems to be over 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352389 ) but haven't heard anything back yet.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Cannot wait, this looks fantastic!

Docker ID: travismcchesney

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Can anybody in HN provide a quickpath into the beta? I signed up when it was first announced (seems to be over 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352389 ) but haven't heard anything back yet.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Would love to be included. Docker ID: emgee

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Can anybody in HN provide a quickpath into the beta? I signed up when it was first announced (seems to be over 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352389 ) but haven't heard anything back yet.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Docker id: nybon

We use Docker to test our app against multiple relational databases.

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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Interesting, this is the first time I'm reading about it [1]. Well, if anything it looks like a web app would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to fit that model. I haven't yet read much about it, but here's a few questions that pop up immediately: 1) If you have a container per data object, doesn't that mean you also have to start a process every time a user opens a document? So forget about doing any computatio…

> it looks like a web app would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to fit that model. Not at all! The app market is full of apps that were not originally written for Sandstorm: https://apps.sandstorm.io/ Examples: Wekan, Etherpad, Rocket.Chat, EtherCalc, draw.io, Gogs, Dillinger, NodeBB, EtherDraw, ... It turns out that converting a web app to Sandstorm is mostly deleting code. You delete your user management, you…

Thank you for your response. Sorry, I'm still not getting it. Not even talking about big data, what I mean is a very simple database application, say with 10k documents in a document based storage model. Now let's say I want to show a list view and a sum over one of the fields in those documents. You'd probably agree that this is a typical usecase for a productivity app. Now how would I do this in the sandstorm model?

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Would love to be fast tracked, if possible. Thanks for doing this. Docker ID: rockymadden

Hey, I don't see you on the beta list as having signed up. You'll need to have signed up at https://beta.docker.com/ first.

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

Cannot wait, this looks fantastic! Docker ID: travismcchesney

Hey, I don't see you on the beta list as having signed up. You'll need to have signed up at https://beta.docker.com/ first.

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

My company has an increasingly complex SOA setup that right now is developed in an ad-hoc basis, but with containers we expect to really streamline our dev setup and dev/production parity. We're all on Macs so this is would be pretty cool to get access to. Docker ID: gtds

Hey, I don't see you on the beta list as having signed up. You'll need to have signed up at https://beta.docker.com/ first.

Re: Docker for Mac Beta Review

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post #91

Can anybody in HN provide a quickpath into the beta? I signed up when it was first announced (seems to be over 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11352389 ) but haven't heard anything back yet.

If you're comfortable sharing your Docker ID, feel free to share it here and we'll fast-track you! Generally anyone who cares enough to ask directly, we'll automatically add to the top of the list. EDIT: or, feel free to contact us privately with a few details on your configuration and use case: feedback+hn@docker.com

I'd like to be added. ID is adregan
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