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Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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What do people think about using email as an alternative to social networks - i.e. creating lists of email addresses (groups), and sending out photos, jokes, opinions, etc. to those groups (e.g. an "All" group to send life updates, a "Cool" group that can take any joke, etc.)?

Sounds awful. It's a push model on someone else's terms.

Think of it this way -- would you want someone else deciding how often you'd look at their web page?

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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What do people think about using email as an alternative to social networks - i.e. creating lists of email addresses (groups), and sending out photos, jokes, opinions, etc. to those groups (e.g. an "All" group to send life updates, a "Cool" group that can take any joke, etc.)?

Email, IMO, really isn't suitable for that mode of communication. Newsgroups, OTOH, were made for that type of communication.

Email really should just be used for 1-on-1 communication that's not meant to be read by anyone else other than the sender and recipient.

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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What do people think about using email as an alternative to social networks - i.e. creating lists of email addresses (groups), and sending out photos, jokes, opinions, etc. to those groups (e.g. an "All" group to send life updates, a "Cool" group that can take any joke, etc.)?

I can't tell if this is clever baiting or not. This was email with friends before MySpace.

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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I never mark email as read, nor do I move it out of my inbox. I have something like 800k unread emails in my inbox. However, I don't need to 'declare email bankruptcy' nor do I need to clear out my inbox.. I just don't pay any attention to the read or unread status. My inbox IS my archive. My system is this: When I check my email, I make sure I mark the most recent email as read. Then, I look back until I find the ne…

> If they are important but I don't want to deal with it now, I 'star' it in gmail.

Does this eventually make your starred emails like everyone else's unread? Do you have to "declare starred email bankruptcy"?

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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I actually wish e-mail were used more.

I want my relatives, my spouse, my friends to use e-mail.

I'm not quite sure how to convince them, though. It generally feels like they'd rather use Facebook or WhatsApp or whatever's in fashion at the moment.

Any tips? Do I just have to sign up to all of the different chat apps and write bots to forward them to me or something?

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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I never mark email as read, nor do I move it out of my inbox. I have something like 800k unread emails in my inbox. However, I don't need to 'declare email bankruptcy' nor do I need to clear out my inbox.. I just don't pay any attention to the read or unread status. My inbox IS my archive. My system is this: When I check my email, I make sure I mark the most recent email as read. Then, I look back until I find the ne…

> I make sure I mark the most recent email as read. Then, I look back until I find the next email marked as read.

I don't have to do any of this or have a special system. I just read my email. If an email is unread, it's unread. If it's in the inbox, it hasn't been dealt with yet.

That's where the "need" comes from: it's the simplest way of achieving exactly the same result you achieve with your system.

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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What I despise most the is the desk drop in, especially for things that could be easily emailed. Sometimes even interrupting me to alert me in person that you've sent me an email. However I've been told by a manager to use the desk drop in more, to get more visibility and make it look like I'm engaging with the team to outside observers

I don't like that either, but see the other responses in the thread where people admit to leaving hundreds (even thousands) of emails unread.

If it's a small number of people doing the "drop in" on you, maybe finding a way to let them know you they don't have to...that you'll answer them, would help?

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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I've been using Inbox for Gmail ( https://inbox.google.com ) since launch and it handles most of the things the author talks about. Emails are treated as tasks, and it's a single mouse click or keyboard shortcut to do any of the following: create a reminder based on a given email, pin it for easier later retrieval, or archive it. That's basically how I manage my mail, along with a simple trick from "Getting Things Done" (which I haven't read), which is that if a task is only going to take a short time, do it immediately rather than putting it off.

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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I actually wish e-mail were used more. I want my relatives, my spouse, my friends to use e-mail. I'm not quite sure how to convince them, though. It generally feels like they'd rather use Facebook or WhatsApp or whatever's in fashion at the moment. Any tips? Do I just have to sign up to all of the different chat apps and write bots to forward them to me or something?

My family does a great job of using mail, as well as some friends, but others are annoyingly stuck in the land of Facebook messaging. I get that it's convenient, because I have more friends on Facebook than I do friends' email addresses, but I don't like that it's such a locked-down medium. I don't even notifications on my phone about Facebook messages because I uninstalled the apps after the battery issues. Email is a way better way to reach me quickly.

The single biggest thing about getting a smartphone to me was how much more useful it made email. At the time I was still using email constantly, but a lot of other people weren't. Having easy access to it on your phone, with notifications, rather than as something you have to remember to log in to all the time and check for updates, really opened it up.

Re: Email Isn’t the Thing We’re Bad At

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post #12

What do people think about using email as an alternative to social networks - i.e. creating lists of email addresses (groups), and sending out photos, jokes, opinions, etc. to those groups (e.g. an "All" group to send life updates, a "Cool" group that can take any joke, etc.)?

Email, IMO, really isn't suitable for that mode of communication. Newsgroups, OTOH, were made for that type of communication. Email really should just be used for 1-on-1 communication that's not meant to be read by anyone else other than the sender and recipient.

What if it is still 1-on-1 communication; so, imagine this: I use an app to write the email, select a group or set of contacts, and the system sends out a 1-on-1 style email to each one of those contacts?
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