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Sigh, really looking forward to someday affording a 4th or 5th-hand used tesla, maybe by 2022
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If I recall correctly the part of the system this is running on is independant from anything important and only does media controls. It also speaks to the rest of the car over a network interface. But still not quite for the faint of heart.
There have actually been a ton of examples over the years of researchers hacking into car systems wirelessly, some of which used the media system as the attack vector. Even if the media subsystem is running on dedicated hardware, the fact that it's networked with the rest of the car means that there's still a risk of it being used to gain access to other components.
There's as many pros on one side as cons on the other.
I'm all for rooting my phones, media devices, gaming consoles...but I think I'd stop short of rooting my car. I think back to the Toyota electronic throttle control system bugs--we can hardly trust manufacturers to develop robust automotive software on their own, long before rooting and customization are thrown into the mix. The media system modded in this post _should_ be completely separate from the "brains" of the…
it is the same thing.
I'm all for rooting my phones, media devices, gaming consoles...but I think I'd stop short of rooting my car. I think back to the Toyota electronic throttle control system bugs--we can hardly trust manufacturers to develop robust automotive software on their own, long before rooting and customization are thrown into the mix. The media system modded in this post _should_ be completely separate from the "brains" of the…
So it's like running an X server and external display on your Android in a chroot, so it looks like you're running Ubuntu and Android.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Gentoo, is in fact, GNU/Gentoo, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Gentoo. Gentoo is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a mo…
Even if this is supposed to be funny (I can't tell, so I think you may have failed if so), I'd like to correct you and say that what makes Gentoo tick doesn't hinge on GNU at all. We can run on different kernels, different libcs, and coreutils are just a package you install. Might be toybox for all Gentoo cares! As far as I'm concerned, Gentoo is the most underappreciated distro. I'm a Gentoo dev, but that's not why…
Dude you are my hero. I look forward to the day that I can sit in my car with my friends, smoking something, watching a movie, and letting the self driving vehicle wander around LA while we look for interesting places to stop and explore. I would never use my couch again. Edit: If tesla begins making showers I may not even need an apartment.
If you cared to read the article, it's a girl, not a dude :)
I'm all for rooting my phones, media devices, gaming consoles...but I think I'd stop short of rooting my car. I think back to the Toyota electronic throttle control system bugs--we can hardly trust manufacturers to develop robust automotive software on their own, long before rooting and customization are thrown into the mix. The media system modded in this post _should_ be completely separate from the "brains" of the…
I wonder what happens when you get into a bad crash, somebody decides to sue, and it comes out that your car was running modified software. Would you be exposing yourself to any liability?
I'm all for rooting my phones, media devices, gaming consoles...but I think I'd stop short of rooting my car. I think back to the Toyota electronic throttle control system bugs--we can hardly trust manufacturers to develop robust automotive software on their own, long before rooting and customization are thrown into the mix. The media system modded in this post _should_ be completely separate from the "brains" of the…
If I recall correctly the part of the system this is running on is independant from anything important and only does media controls. It also speaks to the rest of the car over a network interface. But still not quite for the faint of heart.
I imagine the ideal solution would be using two airgapped computers, one for the main car system, one for the media stuff, and then keep the servers from which they receive updates, and the authorization for those servers completely separated as well, with the updates done by different people, too.
But I imagine the vast majority of car makers don't do anything close to that, and probably not even Tesla does it like that. BMW wasn't even sending its OTA updates over HTTPS until 2 years ago.
I imagine most right now, if they even isolate the media and the main systems at all, probably do it through virtualization to "cut costs", so they don't even use two different chips. Heck, they may even use "containers" to cut costs even further.
And this is why I won't be a self-driving car beta tester in the first 10 years. You just can't trust these guys when up until now they didn't even have a clue about software security, to do this properly. And it's probably why "Silicon Valley car makers" will end up winning over the traditional car makers eventually, too.
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I wonder what happens when you get into a bad crash, somebody decides to sue, and it comes out that your car was running modified software. Would you be exposing yourself to any liability?
I can imagine a few ways that you could. Say you installed a media player. Now you'll have to convince a jury that you didn't install a media player just so you could watch videos while driving, and therefore were distracted at the time.
I had a SatNav where an "unable to detect park gear" warning always showed up (I had a stick shift, so it the wires were connected to the hand-break). The guy at the shop couldn't figure out why it was shorting so he just disabled it and said, "Don't watch DVDs while driving."
You know I never did use the DVD player in there ever, not even while parked, in the 5 years I had it.