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Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by Rafert »

rloc wrote: post #8
Rafert wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be aware of the licensing though. It was MIT but as of March 9 the license file mentions having to purchase a license if used commercial. Seems contradictory with "to deal in the Software without restriction" part of the MIT license text.

Right, I didn't notice at first. http://introjs.com/#commercial Looks like if you use it as part of a commercial product, you have to pay the license.

Reading the texts again it seems it's more like they heavily encourage that license when used commercially (fair enough) and not saying it's mandatory (which contradicts the MIT license). Looks like I'm not the only one who is confused: https://github.com/usablica/intro.js/issues/573

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by ldjb »

Rafert wrote: post #3
markherhold wrote: post #2

This is exactly what I need to quickly explain elements of my dashboards to new users! Alternatively, this could let me explain new elements as they are added over time. Perfect!

Be aware of the licensing though. It was MIT but as of March 9 the license file mentions having to purchase a license if used commercial. Seems contradictory with "to deal in the Software without restriction" part of the MIT license text.

If you're referring to the sentence [1]:

"If you want to use Intro.js for a commercial application, theme or plugin the commercial license is the appropriate license."

...It's not saying you have to purchase a licence if you want to use the software commercially, but that the author recommends purchasing the commercial licence, which they are perfectly within their rights to do.

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from using the software under the terms of the MIT License, but in that case you will have to abide by the terms of the licence and include the copyright and permission notices when re-distributing (the commercial licence may or may not have these requirements -- I haven't seen it).

According to the Intro.js website, the top two tiers of the commercial plan includes support and code review [2], which aren't included with the MIT License.

Depending on the situation, one licence may be favourable than the other. It's not too dissimilar to MySQL being available under a free licence as well as a proprietary licence -- it provides a choice. At least, that's how things are as far as I can tell.

[1] https://github.com/usablica/intro.js/blob/master/license.md

[2] http://introjs.com/#commercial

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by Malcx »

nathancahill wrote: post #5

Cool to see a project using Skeleton. Was disappointed when that project fizzled out once the creator left. It hit the sweet spot in CSS frameworks for me: small, un-opinionated and hard for people to tell you're using a framework (unlike Bootstrap which you can spot a mile away). Haven't found anything to replace it yet.

Post skeleton I've been using Min.css which is fast and light:

http://mincss.com/docs.html

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by xPaw »

ldjb wrote: post #12
Rafert wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be aware of the licensing though. It was MIT but as of March 9 the license file mentions having to purchase a license if used commercial. Seems contradictory with "to deal in the Software without restriction" part of the MIT license text.

If you're referring to the sentence [1]: "If you want to use Intro.js for a commercial application, theme or plugin the commercial license is the appropriate license." ...It's not saying you have to purchase a licence if you want to use the software commercially, but that the author recommends purchasing the commercial licence, which they are perfectly within their rights to do. There is absolutely nothing stopping y…

Here the author claims you must purchase the commercial license: https://github.com/usablica/intro.js/issues/464#issuecomment...

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by me_bx »

nathancahill wrote: post #5

Cool to see a project using Skeleton. Was disappointed when that project fizzled out once the creator left. It hit the sweet spot in CSS frameworks for me: small, un-opinionated and hard for people to tell you're using a framework (unlike Bootstrap which you can spot a mile away). Haven't found anything to replace it yet.

Skeleton Framework, a fork of skeleton, is active and keeps the same spirit: http://skeleton-framework.github.io/

on github: https://github.com/skeleton-framework/skeleton-framework

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by afshinmeh »

nathancahill wrote: post #9
rloc wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, I didn't notice at first. http://introjs.com/#commercial Looks like if you use it as part of a commercial product, you have to pay the license.

Which is only fair IMO, open source developers have to eat too!

ah thanks God! :-)

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by afshinmeh »

dkopi wrote: post #10

This is an awesome library, and seems to be very vibrant on Github. If you're looking for something commercial (and paying for something commercial) however, I'd probably recommend one of the step by step tutorial tools that allow you to build the walk through using a visual editor, and without having to add code for each individual walk through and tool tip. This is one of those cases where I just want to add a shor…

Cheers, thanks.

Re: Show HN: Intro.js Hints

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Post by leesalminen »

dkopi wrote: post #10

This is an awesome library, and seems to be very vibrant on Github. If you're looking for something commercial (and paying for something commercial) however, I'd probably recommend one of the step by step tutorial tools that allow you to build the walk through using a visual editor, and without having to add code for each individual walk through and tool tip. This is one of those cases where I just want to add a shor…

Can you recommend a commercial product that does this?
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