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William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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In an intersection of recent topics in HN, I highly recommend the Globe's 2012 rendition of Twelfth Night , in which Stephen Fry plays Malvolio. I was never so much a fan of his as most seem to be around here, but his performance was frankly good, if somewhat similar to the character from Blackadder II . As for the rest of the cast, they range from solid to excellent.

Is there a place you can watch it online?

Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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In an intersection of recent topics in HN, I highly recommend the Globe's 2012 rendition of Twelfth Night , in which Stephen Fry plays Malvolio. I was never so much a fan of his as most seem to be around here, but his performance was frankly good, if somewhat similar to the character from Blackadder II . As for the rest of the cast, they range from solid to excellent.

Indeed, saw it in NYC. Thought his performance was good. Mark Rylance, of course, was incredible.

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As someone new to Shakespeare, you should definitely start out by watching performances, rather than reading scripts. Until you've absorbed the rhythm and the literary style, it can be very difficult to follow their plots just from a cold reading of the text; particularly for the histories. (And while King Lear is classed as a tragedy, I've personally always felt that it reads more like one of the histories) If you d…

Over the years I've seen (heard) a lot of Shakespeare plays, and I mostly agree with you. Yes, just reading the play is inadequate because the written form is so bare. Attending a live performance is a much better experience. The dialog is meant to be spoken and to be heard. What I do recommend, and is my own practice, is reading the play before going to the performance. We are especially blessed to read Shakespeare…

It's been a long time since I was in that position; almost none of the plays are new to me at this stage. (I'll confess, though, that I've neither seen nor read Coriolanus, Cymbaline, or Timon of Athens. Or, for that matter, any of the Apocrypha) For me personally, I would absolutely do exactly the same as you; if I was going to attend a production of any of those plays which I've not yet experienced, I would read the script, first.

But for someone who isn't yet accustomed to the language, I expect that it would be a hard slog, getting through the texts without an actor's interpretation to help you along.

Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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Over the years I've seen (heard) a lot of Shakespeare plays, and I mostly agree with you. Yes, just reading the play is inadequate because the written form is so bare. Attending a live performance is a much better experience. The dialog is meant to be spoken and to be heard. What I do recommend, and is my own practice, is reading the play before going to the performance. We are especially blessed to read Shakespeare…

>What I do recommend, and is my own practice, is reading the play before going to the performance. But what about the spoilers?

You don't watch/read Shakespeare for M Night Shyamalan twists, but instead for the quality of the language, the actor's performances, and the director's liberties with the script.

Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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Am I the only one who finds the tense in the title a bit confusing? For a moment I was wondering whether he was actually born in 1964...

The entire article is written in present tense, as if it's a current news event; makes for a more interesting read. I don't think they're too concerned about people thinking William Shakespeare just now died.

What about people thinking this was taken from a 400 year old edition of the paper?

Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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In an intersection of recent topics in HN, I highly recommend the Globe's 2012 rendition of Twelfth Night , in which Stephen Fry plays Malvolio. I was never so much a fan of his as most seem to be around here, but his performance was frankly good, if somewhat similar to the character from Blackadder II . As for the rest of the cast, they range from solid to excellent.

Cheers for that. I stumbled across their online player recently, but was a bit overwhelmed. Might give your suggestion a go:

https://globeplayer.tv/videos/twelfth-night

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> My name is Dave in every language No it most likely is not. For one it is a short form of the name David, so it has already been mangled, and then like any other written word will change how it is written to attempt to show the sounds in the written rules of that language. This can lead to additions of letters or some very strange changes to the spelling of the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_%28name%29 "…

It's been a while since my last Greek lesson but isn't Δαυίδ actually 'Danis' and not 'David'?

That's an upsilon in the middle and a delta at the end.

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Sadly (?) the only memories I have of Shakespeare are the forced readings in my sophomore (Julius Caesar) and junior (King Lear) years in high school, both of which I hated and for which Cliff's Notes were my crutch to get through.

Schools tend to pick the worst plays. Try as you like it, taming of the shrew, and other comedies.

They are also setup for live plays, and it loses something when the actors are not trying to get there lines in over a laughing audience.

Re: William Shakespeare, Playwright and Poet, Is Dead at 52

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Of the six signatures, three are abbreviations, and the other three don't coincide among themselves. Besides, he did use the modern form when he wrote his name in print, just not in his signature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_Shakespeare's_name

Oh be quiet with your logic and evidence. In the Romantic and Victorian eras the spelling "Shakspere", as used in the poet's own signature, became more widely adopted in the belief that this was the most authentic version. I guess I lean this way. (I do acknowledge what you said about the man himself spelling his own name differently, makes me wonder why...) But I have always been perplexed about different spellings…

In Japanese, your name is デイブ, which sounds more or less like "deibu".

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I thought it was illegal not to have read Hamlet by 21? Seriously though, give it another try. Shakespeare's wide-ranging enough that there's likely to be something to your taste. And with his comedies, especially, I'd recommend watching Shakespeare and not reading him- that's how his plays were meant to be experienced. Although it's nice to read an annotated version and discover all the (often dirty) jokes you didn'…

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is that there are so many succesful modern retellings of his plays. Something about the stories are just timeless. Watch the originals, by all means, but the reimagined ones are not too shabby either: Romeo + Juliet, modern day "Verona Beach" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VBsi0VxiLg Much Ado About Nothing, set in modern days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmZc8uoEbo Hamle…

His stories were timeless, even when he first wrote them, as they often drew on existing stories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare%27s_plays#Source_m...

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