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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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First you say: >completely different product then call them both >text editors emacs and (g)vim have a gui mode.

Yes, they're both text editors, but they're completely different classes of text editors. MS Word is also a text editor, but it would be ridiculous to fault it for not having a CLI. It's nice that Emacs and Vim have GUI modes, but I doubt they're the primary way users use those editors. Emacs/Vim and VS Code/Sublime/Atom fulfill different needs and preferences. I'm curious about your answer to this: would you argue t…

FWIW, I recall a time when Word used have a CLI. My memory fades, but I think it was either v4 or v5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Word#Origins_and_gro...

The Internet Archive seems to have a version listed on the 'Abandonware' listings.

https://archive.org/details/msdos_microsoft_word5

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Try building a large webapp in vi and then comment. These days what you do is more important than what you use to do it, use vi or emacs or some shitty text editor, but eventually you need a real IDE with a GUI, vi is great, I love it, but it isn't the thing to be used for a large web app. >ut why spew uninformed bullshit when any semi-knowledgeable linux/unix dev knows that vim and emacs run laps around vscode, subl…

> Try building a large webapp in vi and then comment. I've built several using mostly vim as the editor. > These days what you do is more important than what you use to do it, use vi or emacs or some shitty text editor I mean that's a cute opinion, but both vim and emacs are much more powerful and flexible than eclipse, intellij, visual studio or other similar crap. > but it isn't the thing to be used for a large web…

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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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Please, elaborate how VSCode changed the way we write code on Unix? I mean, repeat your statement out loud and ask yourself how big statement you just said. No way in hell how VSCode change the way we write code as much as you stated, no way even Atom did that. Like it or not TextMate came first, and soon after that Sublime Text took over. Yeah, like it or hate it, ST with it’s very well known default monokai theme c…

At work I write Scala and the IntelliJ Scala support is simply unbeatable. It's refactoring engine etc. is fully Scalafied -- when you paste Java code, there's even a "translate to Scala" function offered. I use a "vim mode" plugin that allows me to hope around with 25j and such. For my personal project (which is in Rust) I use Atom, which is new for me, but I find to be really impressive. Both its plugin system (whi…

While I find Atom really nice, and having growing sympathies for it, it definitely feels sluggish compared to Sublime. It is that 0.3-0.7 seconds that make a difference when we are talking about day to day tool usages.

I am a bit turned off by VSCode, it's workflow by the looks of it feel strange to me. Yes I've tried it, yes it was in beta, but right now I am having only Vim on my Mac. Uninstalled Atom this morning, got a little bit frustrated.

It just feels like a web app, I mean it basically is. And when I dragged it to AppCleaner, it is so heavy, 260MB+.

I want GitHub to stream line it. If other were able (look at VSCode for example) that GitHub can. That things leaks memory very now and then. Sublime feels rock solid and blazingly fast compared to Atom, and there you see the difference between native and web. Those fractions of seconds are important when you have app like text editor, especially if used by developers and geeks. :)

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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IronRuby... good (and too short) memories.. I hope MS will embrace Ruby again sooner or later.

I gave up on that hope a while ago. And also on developing for Microsoft platforms in general.

This is completely nonsensical.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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(linux) webdev here, so I write in a couple of different languages. I believe vscode sits nicely between emacs and eclipse.

emacs on the console at the servers is unbeatable. the daemon just sits there, and I can fiddle with bash, config files, php, css with ease.

As a full IDE, eclipse is still the best for PHP development. Has a myriad of plugins that make it so powerful: pdt, phpunit, code/lib/docs integration, per project configuration, etc. its amazing!

Now, for js and scss, its a bit more complicated. and this is where vscode is shining for me. I had to learn a few command bindings and a few things are weird for me still: ctrl+x yanks the line, on linux middle click isn't default, "folders"...

One of the things I like the most tho, it is written in a language I can understand. Aptana used to be a favourite of mine, but because I couldn't write any code for it, I was limited to bug reporting and waiting. This being in typescript, I feel I can look into the source code and write a PR.

I yet to explore it deeply, but i'm sure it will just get better and better.

have a nice day!

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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> blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. Literally every other popular code editor supports some form of "go to symbol".

"Some other go to symbol" It is obvious I didn't use intellij and pycharm and stuff like that, but the ones I did use, kate, gedit, eclipse, notepad++ didn't let me drop into a function "With ease" yeah you can use that feature in eclipse, but it isn't with ease, maybe it is because I am so biased for vscode. We'll never know, but the thing is I feel productive typing into vscode than I ever had with some other edito…

I downvoted you for your brutal incuriosity, not for your opinion.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.0

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I prefer to install Notepad2, it uses the same engine as Notepad++ (Scintilla), but I have turned off most options to resemble the stock Notepad: http://imgur.com/vFu51NV

So, apart from the icon, how does that resemble Notepad?

one instance per file, no tabs, no toolbars and a simplified menu (all of that configurable)
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