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Snowden Seeks Assurance from Norway It Won’t Extradite Him

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Re: Snowden Seeks Assurance from Norway It Won’t Extradite Him

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> sea route Through international or territorial waters of third countries? Not unless he's hitching a ride on RFS Bespokoynyy.

You can stay in Russian/Norwegian waters. The quicker option would probably be Finnish/Swedish waters from St.Petersburg.

Well, based on Assange's history, I wouldn't travel through Swedish territory if I were him.

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Do they have a no-fly list now as well?

Norway and Russia share a land border.

With roads north of the arctic circle. It looks like it would be difficult to do that without crossing into either Sweden or Finland too, which would be an issue for Snowden.

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There's direct Aeroflot flights between Moscow and Oslo (SVO - OSL). US fighters and/or ships could _arguably_ intercept a civilian aircraft in international waters and force landing in another country.

If he would be safe in Noway I think the transportation issue is easy solvable. Wonder if the US would feel like they could kidnap him from the streets, and maybe Norway would promise to look the other way.

The plane would not have to go over international waters and/or other countries, but usually do.

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There's direct Aeroflot flights between Moscow and Oslo (SVO - OSL). US fighters and/or ships could _arguably_ intercept a civilian aircraft in international waters and force landing in another country.

If he would be safe in Noway I think the transportation issue is easy solvable. Wonder if the US would feel like they could kidnap him from the streets, and maybe Norway would promise to look the other way. The plane would not have to go over international waters and/or other countries, but usually do.

That's unlikely because he would obviously have security (costing a $2-3k USD for decent-sized detail).

A chartered flight (light or mid-sized jet) would be around $30k USD.

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Sounds like a great way to get nabbed by a CIA snatch-and-grab operation. Even if his FSB protection plans the field trip and accompanies him, it's still a huge risk. It also provides an ample opportunity for Russia to divest themselves of Snowden should they wish, making the West look bad in the process.

Norway's NIS maintains a friendly relationship with U.S. intelligence.[0] NSA documents leaked by Snowden refer to Norway as a "Tier B" country.[1] The only thing higher is "Tier A"—Five Eyes member nations.

[0] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KW_21XnezyY/Usdezt9SifI/AAAAAAAABH...

[1] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NRWNh0OgZwQ/UrEBhQltzrI/AAAAAAAABF...

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So many threats along the way: 1) kidnap before reaching the airport 2) not be allowed to leave Russia 3) be intercepted between Russia and Norway 4) be caught in Norway after arrive 5) be caught in Norway before departure back to Russia 6) be caught during travel back to Russia 7) not be allowed to go back to Russia at all 8) be caught after arrive in Russia 9) be caught before going back to his apartment 10) be caught soon after arriving on his apartment 11) be caught later on

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he would be safe in Noway I think the transportation issue is easy solvable. Wonder if the US would feel like they could kidnap him from the streets, and maybe Norway would promise to look the other way. The plane would not have to go over international waters and/or other countries, but usually do.

That's unlikely because he would obviously have security (costing a $2-3k USD for decent-sized detail). A chartered flight (light or mid-sized jet) would be around $30k USD.

Security is for stalkers; there's nothing they can do if a team of marines shows up.

Re: Snowden Seeks Assurance from Norway It Won’t Extradite Him

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Remember Anders Behring? He was sentenced for 21 years for his terrorist attack in 2011. I find it hard to believe a country that has the most humane prison system in the world would extradite Snowden back the the US...

Seems tough to bet your life on that bit of logic
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