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Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by noir_lord »

edent wrote: post #75
michaelmior wrote: post #66

For anyone like myself who isn't a big fan of the Unity interface, check out Ubuntu MATE[0]. The MATE desktop environment is very similar to pre-Unity Ubuntu. It seems like the final 16.04 release hasn't landed yet but I'm sure it will later today. Ubuntu MATE is also one of the derivative distros that has been granted LTS status by Canonical. [0] https://ubuntu-mate.org/

I'll second that. Mate is amazing. I can also recommend Cinnamon.

Both are great, Xubuntu is excellent and still my goto since it has pretty much exactly the features I want from a DE.

It's nice to have good choices that use the old paradigms.

XFCE 4.12 pretty much feels exactly like Gnome 2 towards the end.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by teekert »

edent wrote: post #75
michaelmior wrote: post #66

For anyone like myself who isn't a big fan of the Unity interface, check out Ubuntu MATE[0]. The MATE desktop environment is very similar to pre-Unity Ubuntu. It seems like the final 16.04 release hasn't landed yet but I'm sure it will later today. Ubuntu MATE is also one of the derivative distros that has been granted LTS status by Canonical. [0] https://ubuntu-mate.org/

I'll second that. Mate is amazing. I can also recommend Cinnamon.

Ubuntu Mate is also great on the Raspberry Pi. all the GPIO stuff just works as in Raspbian but you get a more modern desktop (using the classical gnome2 layout) and Ubuntu as the base (which to mee means easier setup of things like a mail server.)

I'm hoping Owncloud starts to use Snaps.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by ZoF »

yrro wrote: post #64
ac wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you, please, explain what .service files are and how they eliminate the need for bash scripts etc? Couldn't find anything in search results.

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html

This site's down, 80/443 both closed.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by stegosaurus »

themodelplumber wrote: post #42
arca_vorago wrote: post #9

I've been on 16.04 for a few days now, and while I did have to work through some bugs (such as sddm and lightdm fighting each other) I've been impressed so far with the improvements. Inused to hate on Ubuntu, but on my 2014 Macbook Pro, it was the one distro that "just worked", and since I mostly run debian servers, I figure Sticking to the similar ecosystem reduces mental load of switching. I still have my issues wi…

Curious what you want to remove in Windows 10. Not an evangelist, just set it up on a dual-boot refurb for a friend and thought the initial experience wasn't bad.

My experience of Windows 10 is limited to having a look at it in local computer shops (I've been trying to find a decent cheap laptop to stick Linux on for a friend).

I clicked the Start Menu. Fully half of it was made up of flashing animated crap - things moving about, very colourful adverts, the actual things I wanted to do were obscured by it.

I tried a few machines. They did the same thing. Maybe it's a manufacturer default.

Hey, maybe it's customizable. I don't know. It just struck me as being so far from what I think of a computer as being - not a tool to be used, but a flashy, childish entertainment box, like a children's rainbow cake.

My ego betrays me at this point, I suppose. I don't understand how the engineers at Microsoft got to this point.

It reminds me a lot of the Xbox 360 dashboard. That was the point I left 'mainstream' video gaming - it felt like my hackery, fun world had turned into a world of consuming advertising, of subscribing, of being someone else's plaything. Perhaps it was always like that, and I was too young to see?

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by gravypod »

abrowne wrote: post #52
gravypod wrote: post #35

So when will I be able to `sudo do-release-upgrade`? Does not seem to be working on my end. I'm using Xubuntu.

Are you on 15.10 or 14.04 LTS? For the latter, I think not until 16.04.1 is released. Otherwise, probably soon.

I'm on xubuntu 15.10.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Post by bryanlarsen »

majewsky wrote: post #70
creshal wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love the part about simplifying packaging via 'snap'. Bleargh. More container bullshit, now with even less control over it by end users. Now each tiny library update (think OpenSSL security fixes) will pull hundreds of "snaps" instead of a single package… assuming the developers even realize they have to rebuild their snaps.

A hundred times this. When some library upgrade happened to break stuff on my system, I could roll it back selectively, while still getting the updates for everything else (as long as it does not strictly depend on this new library version). That's gone now. Good thing I abandoned Ubuntu a long time ago.

What did you switch to? Fedora is switching to xdg-app, which basically does the same thing. Now that those two are using such an approach, I imagine that app developers are increasingly going to drop support for distros that don't use snap, xdg-app or docker. Snap/xdg-app/docker are a lot more convenient for those app developers.

Edit: forgot appc. Thank goodness they're all planning on supporting the Open Container Initiative.

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