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Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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For anyone packaging software on Linux, this now means every major distro - Debian, RHEL/CentOS, Arch and now Ubuntu - supports .service files. No need for bash scripts, custom watchdog and daemonise tools, etc.

Upstart provided comparable service for years. There was no reason to use bash scripts and watchdogs / restarters before.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious what you want to remove in Windows 10. Not an evangelist, just set it up on a dual-boot refurb for a friend and thought the initial experience wasn't bad.

Having two control panels

Not a fan of TIMTOWTDI?

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#73
post #47

Is an update from 14.04 painless or would you recommend reinstalling? I'd like some newer packages but don't really feel like setting up the whole system again with a reinstall.

Pretty painless - I've just ran this on two servers (not in production):

    sudo do-release-upgrade
or if you're on a server

    sudo do-release-upgrade -d
although they don't recommend doing that on a production server because the .1 release usually has a lot of bugfixes.

It took about half an hour followed by a reboot. Occasionally had to intervene to tell it to overwrite config files I hadn't touched or to let me do a merge if I had.

Obviously make sure you have backups first.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#74
post #47

Is an update from 14.04 painless or would you recommend reinstalling? I'd like some newer packages but don't really feel like setting up the whole system again with a reinstall.

If you don't feel a particular urge to upgrade right now, it's probably not a bad idea to wait for the first service pack (16.04.1), which usually comes a few months later. Most kinks should be ironed out by then.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#75

For anyone like myself who isn't a big fan of the Unity interface, check out Ubuntu MATE[0]. The MATE desktop environment is very similar to pre-Unity Ubuntu. It seems like the final 16.04 release hasn't landed yet but I'm sure it will later today. Ubuntu MATE is also one of the derivative distros that has been granted LTS status by Canonical. [0] https://ubuntu-mate.org/

I'll second that. Mate is amazing.

I can also recommend Cinnamon.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#77

Been using 16.04 on my XPS 13 for a week or so now, it finally supports nearly everything (bluetooth is a couple of extra commands) out of the box, and I've not had any issues so far.

Are you happy with battery life? For laptops, I've always stuck with Apple machines but in my experience even Windows uses less power than Linux.

I've been using an XPS 13 for 8 months as my main development machine and battery life hasn't been an issue. I regularly go out for a (e.g. coffee shop) working day and I don't have to charge.

There were some issues with earlier Ubuntu/Linux/BIOS versions, but most have disappeared with new releases. The last one is a palm detection issue with the touchpad, but it should to be fixed in 16.04. And if you can't wait, at least you can fix things yourself if you want.

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how big the installation of Amazon Linux is? They are still not on systemd. Also, CentOS 6 still has support for 4 more years so probably can't throw away all the bash yet.

Very good points. Amazon linux is pretty popular within AWS, and LTS CentOS and RHEL have huge install bases for larger corporate environments. For that matter, Ubuntu 14.04 is still supported for another two years, and that's still upstart.

Three more years: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus)

#80
post #19

For anyone packaging software on Linux, this now means every major distro - Debian, RHEL/CentOS, Arch and now Ubuntu - supports .service files. No need for bash scripts, custom watchdog and daemonise tools, etc.

Upstart provided comparable service for years. There was no reason to use bash scripts and watchdogs / restarters before.

Yes, there was a reason: Having to support other distros.

The big deal now is that all the major distributions support the same mechanism.

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