what about Canada's responsibilities under certain international treaties to prohibit the production and supply of drugs?
Screw the treaties.
Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
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Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#32How does this effect the supply chain? Let me re-phrase that, are we still criminalizing the supply side? If so, we're just exporting our violence south of the USA border.
We've truly legitimized, if not quite yet legalized, when we're applying biz jargon like "supply chain" to dope.
I'll just send My Man an application to the INSEAD MBA programme....
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the difference between the two?
"Legalize" means it's fully legal to produce, distribute and buy. It may be regulated, so you may need a license and follow certain rules, but other than that it's like any other product on the market. "Decriminalize" means it's still illegal to produce, distribute or buy, but it's not a criminal offence. So you may be fined, etc., but you can't be arrested or go to jail for it.
It should be legalized, but with one condition: any and all advertising should be banned. In fact, it should apply to all drugs (as it is in other countries).
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I understand, legalization is a lot more complicated in relation to international drug treaties that Canada is a part of.
Could be. I wonder if they would be the first to fully legalize on a national level? I can't think of any other country that has.
Portugal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
Since July 2001, all drugs are legal subject to personal consumption limits.
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#35Other news sources[1] are reporting it as "legalize", not decriminalize. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04/20/canada-marijuana-leg...
It will be legalize, not decriminalize. The party has majority, they could have passed a decrim on day one. They have no intent of decriminalizing.
No, they could not pass it on day one. Getting legislation together like this takes support building in other areas of government, and getting it right so it isn't toppled because of flawed wording takes crafting. They need to bring people on board and do it well or it falls apart. It takes time.
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#36Other news sources[1] are reporting it as "legalize", not decriminalize. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04/20/canada-marijuana-leg...
It will be legalize, not decriminalize. The party has majority, they could have passed a decrim on day one. They have no intent of decriminalizing.
I don't get it. Are you saying in parliamentary systems legislation is only passed the day a new government assumes power? What do they do until the next time elections are called?
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#37Other news sources[1] are reporting it as "legalize", not decriminalize. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04/20/canada-marijuana-leg...
Interesting, the linked article called it decriminalize, but the text sounded more like full legalization to me. If you have the political support to fully legalize, why take half measures?
The Guardian is simply wrong. The Liberals fought the last election on a promise to legalize, and just today in Question Period Trudeau rejected calls to decriminalize first, saying that it does nothing to keep pot away from kids and legitimizes a significant income stream for organized crime.
It's simply poor fact-checking by the Guardian.
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#38I'm curious if all those decriminalizations and legalizations in various states & countries are having an impact on Netherlands' tourism.
Many Dutch cities take active measures against drug tourists. They are not a profitable or desirable crowd. Besides, most drug tourism is and always has been from countries where drugs laws are still (relatively) strict.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will be legalize, not decriminalize. The party has majority, they could have passed a decrim on day one. They have no intent of decriminalizing.
I don't get it. Are you saying in parliamentary systems legislation is only passed the day a new government assumes power? What do they do until the next time elections are called?
He just means they didnt have to wait for anything or anyone. If they're being well behaved they will have some due course and debate etc. But in Harper's government we often saw how fast things could go through the gov't with a majority, little debate/discussion or public notice even. Yay canada.
Re: Canada to introduce legislation to legalize recreational cannabis
#40How does this effect the supply chain? Let me re-phrase that, are we still criminalizing the supply side? If so, we're just exporting our violence south of the USA border.
No, they have promised legalization. However there's virtually no chance of this being a free-for-all. What I expect the main features to be: - Certified and regulated producers, though not numerically limited - heavily-taxed. - no problems growing your own. - retail distribution depends on province. More liberal in BC, government-run in Ontario. - separate certifications for places "serving" (ie, pot cafes). Can't t…
In other words, regulated in a way that is very close to how alcohol is currently sold in Ontario.