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#71

Amazon keeps asking me to interview and everyone tells me it's a terrible place to work. After seeing this compensation via equity I'm thinking it might be worth it. Anyone work at Amazon and loves it or think it's really worth it?

Are we looking at the same data?

SDE3 is a quite senior role at Amazon. I don't know very many of them, and almost all of the ones I know are extremely bright. Seems like they're getting ripped off.

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I would like to see one of these analysis break down base salary versus total compensation. I have never received less than 95% of my total compensation in base salary. Neither has my non-technical wife. I have no idea what is "normal" in that respect.

I'd also like to see a breakdown by market, as I have been led to believe that my salary is only slightly below market for Dallas, but the median compensation numbers posted in this article for my experience level are three times what I make now, and it's depressing.

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Would like to see a discussion of possible systematic bias. The "hacker" group generally prides itself on a) creatively messing systems up, and b) anticipating (and preventing) creative system mess-ups, I have to wonder how accurate this data is. Sure, there's little incentive to lie - but there is a small incentive, which is simply to mess with people. (And there might even be another, which is to exaggerate income to encourage others to ask for more money, which might eventually positively affect you.) I wonder if there is any way to measure this effect, or eliminate it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're not quite there yet with the data we have :). Anecdotally though, it seems like companies in Europe pay less and take out more taxes.

When I have a 200k income, I don't really care about getting welfare, and I can probably pay healthcare myself. But I don't have that kind of income, and then healthcare, pension and social benefits really count. We may pay more tax, but I'm glad we have the backup system that keeps you going when you're sick or unemployed.

The sad reality is if your employed, you have good health insurance, and if your not, your visa isn't there either and your back to europe/canada with social services anyway :/

American also has Social Security & 401k (pensions) and health care for the old (medicare) / poor (mediCAL, medicaid), and some social services (public school, various state programs in california)

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#76

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I can sort of understand that as a signal not to interview at the company or information for future potential coworkers to use during negotiations. A rising tide raises all ships so to speak. IMO sharing salary data is the perfect first step for some sort of software engineers association/guild/professional body.

This may be an unpopular opinion but if internet forums and message boards are any indication I don't want some omnipotent group of software developers making decisions for the industry as a whole. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that... And perhaps more relevant to the thread, I know two types of people who talk about their salary, people who make a lot and people who make a little. Their is just so much…

I'm not sure I follow but you may be misunderstanding me. I'm definitely not advocating for an omnipotent group of software developers making decisions for the industry as a whole. I can only assume you've seen that advocated for somewhere else and are equivocating it with my post?

At it's simplest level I think something like the SAG or profession sports players associations. Kept out of the way, stars can rise, and there if you need them. It'd be useful to be able to have an organization that I can say "Hey, I'm interviewing at Github, based on your verified compensation data that you keep, what can I expect?"

The fact is, our employers share and buy each others compensation data similarly for use in negotiations and when setting compensation. It only makes sense that the parties on the other side of the table do the same thing.

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post #59

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Ineffectively and for core vote base, not you. This is an old debate.

Regardless of what one thinks of the tax it's clear one can't compare salaries after taxation. Fact is I don't spend anything on healthcare. In the US I would need insurance. I don't save for my kids university education because it will be free. In the US I would have to. Comparing pre tax income is more useful, by and large.

Insurance in the us is also cheaper in paying 2300 a year for private insurance (AXA) so I won't have to deal with the NHS on every silly issue.

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Is it a case of only people making the most money are more apt to report their earnings?

My thoughts exactly $400K? Could someone being paid this level of money please share your career path.

Luck, basically. Working at Google was both a gateway to more opportunities, and a gateway to a much higher salary.

I had been working remotely for a long time for a small company, and making what I considered to be good money, considering that I lived in a fly-over state. When I was hired at Google, it more than doubled my salary after a while, when stock grants began to vest.

I now work for Netflix, and I am making even more than I was at Google. To this day, I cannot believe I am paid so much.

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