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Re: Off the Grid

#21

I've been trying to do this and as of this week, HN and stackexchage are the last social accounts I have but only because I can't find a way to delete them. I could just log out and walk away but it feels like there's no closure that way. Anyone know of a way to close an HN account?

Change the email address to a random uuid-like hash @example.com, then change your password to a random hash. Do not allow your browser or password manager to save these values.

Now you’ve locked yourself out with no way back in.

Re: Off the Grid

#22

I've been trying to do this and as of this week, HN and stackexchage are the last social accounts I have but only because I can't find a way to delete them. I could just log out and walk away but it feels like there's no closure that way. Anyone know of a way to close an HN account?

Email hn@ycombinator.com, that said I did try that once and nothing happened. But that was long before dang stepped up and took a more active role in moderating threads. Kinda glad it didn't happen because the site's improved a fair bit since then. I'm kinda a bit like you, I'm really only active online on StackOverflow and here. I have a twitter account but to be honest it's mostly full of re-tweets. I binned Facebo…

I've tried getting in touch with HN a few times to delete my account. Well, I actually understand the value of keeping the content I've contributed so I really just wanted a name change so my presence was anonymous. Never heard back though.

Re: Off the Grid

#23

I've been trying to do this and as of this week, HN and stackexchage are the last social accounts I have but only because I can't find a way to delete them. I could just log out and walk away but it feels like there's no closure that way. Anyone know of a way to close an HN account?

Email hn@ycombinator.com, that said I did try that once and nothing happened. But that was long before dang stepped up and took a more active role in moderating threads. Kinda glad it didn't happen because the site's improved a fair bit since then. I'm kinda a bit like you, I'm really only active online on StackOverflow and here. I have a twitter account but to be honest it's mostly full of re-tweets. I binned Facebo…

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Re: Off the Grid

#24
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Not having an online presence" makes as much sense as "not having a presence at the pub" Not quite- if I don't make it to the pub one night, people just brush it off and think "I'll talk to him next time." People seem much more vitriolic if I don't respond to whatever internet/text message they sent with near immediacy- because it's always available. It seems like there's a shut-off valve with the pub, or a land-l…

> if I don't respond to whatever internet/text message they sent with near immediacy- because it's always available I have to agree with you on this one. But I believe it suffices to say that no, you're not looking at email/fb/whatsapp/whatever all the time (and acting like that)

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Re: Off the Grid

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>They have been given, willy nilly, demographic tags like ‘millennial’, ‘post-millennial’, ‘Generation Z’, ‘i-Gen’ — not out of anybody’s acute cultural observation, sympathy or understanding but either to bulk up a HuffPo article or to delineate convenient advertising categories, within which many sub-categories can be established. You are not a person, you are an algorithmic assumption, a mould into which hot selling-jelly may be poured.

Well, obviously, and for every generalization concerning a whole generation, you're not, and you're not supposed to be, a person. There's a time to talk of people individually and as persons (e.g. in personal relationships, workplace, etc.) and times to generalize and talk about their collective patterns of behavior.

And those names are not always coming from journalist hacks without "acute cultural observation, sympathy or understanding" either. E.g. "Generation X" came from a member of said generation itself, Douglas Copland, trying to describe how it is for him and his friends.

In any case, "Generation ___" is just a convenient handle to talk about many people together -- its usefulness comes from whether it describes something statistically useful, not from whether it caters to the individuality of each unique snowflake person (and of course most just delude themselves that they are that, while following very similar paths with their generation for most things).

>my proudest boast would be: ‘My friends and I, we disappeared ourselves. No social media, no email, no chat, no wifi, no selfies, no SMS, no smartphones. We did it. We did this thing. We Got Off The Grid.

I'd say this again underestimates how many people are "off the grid" (even if they have internet at home) and don't participate in the whole social media/chat/selfies/etc thing.

Re: Off the Grid

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of agree "Not having an online presence" makes as much sense as "not having a presence at the pub" or "refusing to talk to people as a principle - isn't that so 'awesome'?" It's fine, you don't need to be on every silly new 2.0 dot com, no issue there. But you're shutting yourself out of a means of communication with other people. The fact that it involved technology is a detail You can go to the pub and not d…

> "Not having an online presence" makes as much sense as "not having a presence at the pub" Not quite- if I don't make it to the pub one night, people just brush it off and think "I'll talk to him next time." People seem much more vitriolic if I don't respond to whatever internet/text message they sent with near immediacy- because it's always available. It seems like there's a shut-off valve with the pub, or a land-l…

As someone who barely ever picks up a call or reads an SMS in less than an hour, and often a full day, people are annoyed at first but soon get used to it.

Re: Off the Grid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of agree "Not having an online presence" makes as much sense as "not having a presence at the pub" or "refusing to talk to people as a principle - isn't that so 'awesome'?" It's fine, you don't need to be on every silly new 2.0 dot com, no issue there. But you're shutting yourself out of a means of communication with other people. The fact that it involved technology is a detail You can go to the pub and not d…

> "Not having an online presence" makes as much sense as "not having a presence at the pub" It does make sense, your Facebook/Twitter/... presence doesn't go away when you go to bed or go on holiday, it's always there to be ogled at, poke and prodded, unlike your non-presence in the pub when you stagger off home at closing time.

I know some people who deactivate their account every night, and apparently it's not that rare either: http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2010/11/08/risk-re...

Re: Off the Grid

#30
post #9

Goodness me, that's a lot of bloviation. I think there's a point buried in there somewhere that has been made far more succinctly by a lot of other people.

I usually think the same for vast majority of stuff on HN, i.e. most articles could be cut down to one or two paragraphs with little value lost, but... There are generally two reasons why I read - to extract information and for the experience of reading. Stephen Fry's blog is one of the rare cases where I just enjoy the writing and the information value doesn't really matter.

>I usually think the same for vast majority of stuff on HN, i.e. most articles could be cut down to one or two paragraphs with little value lost,

Maybe life too.

Instead of going through this whole redundant process of living through it, we could just be given some 10 word summary, like e.g.:

"There was some fun, some sadness, a few regrets, a couple profound experiences, a lot of boredom, quite some pain, mostly ok, and then you died".

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