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Am I the only one with a sinking, gut instinct, that this is indicative of a deeper problem in the economy? It feels like a crash is lurking... Maybe I'm just paranoid?
* Tick-tock is dead.
* 10 nm is severely delayed.
* EUV is severely delayed.
* Significant layoffs in R&D
* The ITRS roadmap is vaguer than it's ever been.
* Giant mergers are up (Intel+Altera, KLA+Lam, etc.), concentrating the industry more than ever.
* And ultimately: A 5-year-old PC still works just fine.
When I say this is the end of Moore's Law, I'm not trying to be dogmatic. Of course there will still be a semiconductor industry and of course there will still be amazing technological progress. But it seems the rate of that progress is slowing, and now the industry is adjusting.
Am I the only one with a sinking, gut instinct, that this is indicative of a deeper problem in the economy? It feels like a crash is lurking... Maybe I'm just paranoid?
I think that this is the result of the wider economic turmoil we're experiencing since 2008. The US economy, in theory, is recovering but the biggest player worldwide is Europe and Europe right now can't handle a few hundred thousand immigrants - should be trivial given the available resources. Europe has political midgets in a time when at least mediocre politicians would be needed all over the place (France, German…
Yeah right, let's blame Europe for yet another US bubble. The last 2 crisis were entirely US made.
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> boost competitiveness between workers. I do not think that this is a good thing...you want collaboration, not politics and back stabbing.
Its corporation. Morals are not really the top priority. The results are.
I'm not sure how much of an effect this would have, but from a consumer's point of view, there isn't as much of a reason to buy a new PC every few years anymore. The laptop I'm using right now was purchased in 2011, and the prices in stores now are very comparable to what I paid back then. I've made up my mind to buy a new one a few times, but then when I go to the store, it just isn't worth it.
Plus, the last few laptops I've purchased all seem to die JUST after the warranties (extended or otherwise) expire.
Are they finally at least putting 1080p+ screens on these as a standard thing, or is everyone still stick on that crummy 1366x768 regression?
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News like this out of the blue is strange. I was pretty sure that the post-PC era was a sham. It still is, right?
How much of your time is now on a mobile that used to be on a desktop? Their core business is drying up.
I'm serious: about 80% of my day is meeting with real people in the real world. Mobile phones haven't changed that.
The other 20% of my day is sitting at my desk creating original work product (mathematical models and thoughtful memoranda) or reviewing the work product of others. Mobile phones haven't changed that, either.
No doubt the drought in PC sales is real and permanent. But I wonder how much of that is because people just don't need to keep their laptops up to date in the age of great cloud services.
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I don't know about other people, but my next Intel CPU will have AVX-512, which Skylake doesn't have. I'm expecting AVX-512 to (up to) double integer/FPU vector computation capacity. I also want to see some proof future Intel processors (especially 10nm and smaller) have not lost durability due to electromigration [1] (or some other durability issues small feature size can cause). There's already some indication this…
You might be surprised to learn that AVX-512 is not available in Skylake - it will only be in the Xeon line. It also won't give you anywhere near double performance, since a lot of AVX2 code is memory bandwidth bound anyway (which is probably one of the reasons it's not in the desktop chips.) I would've bought a Skylake so that I can test code on an AV-512 machine. Now I'll keep my money and wait and see.
I know about bandwidth issues, but you can also use big vector sizes to mitigate, more opportunities for simple schemes for realtime (de)compression of data. (Usually called packing/unpacking).
But where you can work around bandwidth issues, you can get up to twice as much work done.
I've also been looking for such a chip to test my code. Of course it's possible to use SDE. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-software-dev...
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News like this out of the blue is strange. I was pretty sure that the post-PC era was a sham. It still is, right?
How much of your time is now on a mobile that used to be on a desktop? Their core business is drying up.
Does anyone working within Intel know the reasoning ? It seems skylake is doing really well. Is it mostly electrical engineers working on the processors or sales and marketing people ?
That's how I understood it, at least. If anyone more familiar with Intel's inner-workings thinks I'm off-base, please feel free to correct me.