I am not on facebook, and yet i don't see the internet being "eaten" around me. Maybe it's a good thing to have a wall behind which all the trivialities occur. If something great happens, it will jump out of there. Facebook is apparently "eating" the social networking world. To me, that's good, i would like to see companies innovating in other, more exciting areas.
Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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I very much doubt craigslist users desire to have their craigslist activity tied to their real life identity...
what was on craigslist, is now quite often taking place in facebook groups have you ever looked up groups for your local neighborhood: garage sales and all kinds of random things i previously would have seen on craigslist
I haven't had facebook since 2009, so no.
But I doubt you're going to see facebook: casual encounters anytime soon
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
#83Until you talk to a teenager. "Facebook is for old people..."
Maybe Facebook was for old* people all along, young people just didn't have other tools such as Snapchat or Instagram, so facebook was good enough.
*Old as in not a teenager
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
#84As much as I dislike facebook, I've moved around a lot throughout my life, as have a lot of my friends, both from high school and university. So realistically, I just don't see any realistic alternative single platform which allows me to keep in touch with all these people. If such a platform did exist, and I knew about it, I would switch immediately. Their entire business model revolves around getting users addicted…
>If such a platform did exist, and I knew about it, I would switch immediately.
>That being said, I limit my facebook usage to messanger and wishing people happy birthday, so I guess it could be worse.
You don't need a platform, you need a messaging tool and, if you don't mind the lack of encryption, you could just use email.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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Tool? It all just gets thrown into one page, either chronologically (a setting FB constantly "forgets") or filtered through a totally opaque algorithm. There is no way to display things in various ways, e.g. as list (just the date, type (text/link/image/video), poster, number of likes/comments/shares). There is no way to show posts matching specific criteria, be it the date range or content. There is just the endless…
Facebook is not a blogging platform. It isn't promising a long-term store of curated searchable data. It's an endlessly scrolling feed of what's going on now, plus an events tool and photos etc. When did it ever promise anything more?
Well, it is a long-term store of searchable data, just not for the people who actually put it there or care what their friends said or did. But more to your point: so it doesn't break a completely meaningless promise such as this one:
> Founded in 2004, Facebook’s mission is to give people the power to share and make the world more open and connected. People use Facebook to stay connected with friends and family, to discover what’s going on in the world, and to share and express what matters to them.
Great promise. I have a hard time coming up with anything, from cooking food to murdering people in the streets, that doesn't fit this definition if you just squint hard enough.
I judge Facebook by how it improves or impoverishes the world and the web, not by whether it keeps promises that are so vague one could apply them to just about anything, and which I would say are also lies by omission (which may be par of the course for marketing, but that doesn't change what it is). I don't see anything in their FAQ about "dumb fucks" trusting anyone, either.
You cannot "control what you see from individual people" as you claimed. You can click "see less stuff like this", sure, but what is "like this"? Nobody knows, nobody cares, just some fuzzy thing or other. That's not "control".
And even if you follow people/groups that never post stuff you don't like, it's still a tumblr-like "feed", and that has nothing to do with using the "tool" wrong, that's using it exactly right, seeing random stuff and feeding algorithms with your likes and shares. It extracts value from people, it keeps the data, and gives very little back to them; again, par of the course, again, doesn't change what it is.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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I go through an experience about once a year: 1) Log in to Facebook to look at picture of friend's new baby. This is nice. 2) Start browsing around, seeing what other friends have been up to. Oh neato. ... an hour later 3) Looking up people I knew in high school but haven't kept up with. ... another hour later 4) Holy crap, where'd the morning go? I can't do this. Shut it down. 5) Wait ~12 months for next event that…
Wouldn't it make a little more sense to spread those four hours out over the year? I never spend more than a few minutes at a time on Facebook, because there's never that much new stuff since I looked at it yesterday.
Yeah, definitely. I think for my personality, I just have a really hard time just "snacking" on Facebook. I also might have a more active set of Facebook friends/family than you do. I feel like whenever I open it, even when I've toyed with checking it weekly, I end up spending hours reading posts and articles people have linked to, etc. It's easier for me to just ignore it for months at a time and being okay missing the occasional important update.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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I go through an experience about once a year: 1) Log in to Facebook to look at picture of friend's new baby. This is nice. 2) Start browsing around, seeing what other friends have been up to. Oh neato. ... an hour later 3) Looking up people I knew in high school but haven't kept up with. ... another hour later 4) Holy crap, where'd the morning go? I can't do this. Shut it down. 5) Wait ~12 months for next event that…
Yeah, Facebook is nice. I actually spend about 30 minutes in an entire day (open it in the morning, open it in the evening), catch up on what family & friends are postin', maybe venture into a shared post's comments (I like watching trainwrecks), and then I'm done. And then once every few months, I decide to dig in to someone's FB page/photos since I haven't thought about them in a long time and what to see what they…
Yeah, I think we understand each other. I don't really hate FB. Or if I do hate it, I hate it the same way I "hate" World of Warcraft. I've just realized that I am easily addicted to things, and I recognize in FB something that could easily consume hours of my life every week. It's better for me to just pretend it doesn't exist most of the time, until the occasion where a real-life friend mentions something they posted on FB that seems worth delving into, like the aforementioned baby pictures.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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Facebook is not a blogging platform. It isn't promising a long-term store of curated searchable data. It's an endlessly scrolling feed of what's going on now, plus an events tool and photos etc. When did it ever promise anything more?
Well, it is a long-term store of searchable data, just not for the people who actually put it there or care what their friends said or did. But more to your point: so it doesn't break a completely meaningless promise such as this one: > Founded in 2004, Facebook’s mission is to give people the power to share and make the world more open and connected. People use Facebook to stay connected with friends and family, to…
You have an incredible sense of entitlement when it comes to a website that is provided free of charge (with fairly well-targeted and unobtrusive advertising) for you and your friends to use.
If you think the site is not sophisticated enough for your tastes, don't use it. But if you don't use it and your friends do, then you may miss out on social connection. Because that's what the site is for.
Facebook gives a lot to its users, and all for free. The complexity of building a site that serves 1.5bn users is astonishing, and with live notifications too. It's just brilliant. But if you're too sophisticated for it then don't use it. Makes no difference to me.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
#89As much as I dislike facebook, I've moved around a lot throughout my life, as have a lot of my friends, both from high school and university. So realistically, I just don't see any realistic alternative single platform which allows me to keep in touch with all these people. If such a platform did exist, and I knew about it, I would switch immediately. Their entire business model revolves around getting users addicted…
>If such a platform did exist, and I knew about it, I would switch immediately. >That being said, I limit my facebook usage to messanger and wishing people happy birthday, so I guess it could be worse. You don't need a platform, you need a messaging tool and, if you don't mind the lack of encryption, you could just use email.
True, but I also need people I want to talk to to be on the messaging tool, which is the real issue here.
As for email, to me it just doesn't serve the same purpose that IM does. It's analogous to sending letters back and forth as opposed to having a face-to-face conversation -- the increased time lag between replies encouraged by the medium has a huge influence on the nature of conversations that occur through it.
I still use email, for example when I want to send something more in-depth to someone and I don't expect a quick reply. But it's not the right tool if I want a real-time, informal conversation with someone, which is most of my conversations.
Re: Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
#90I deleted my Facebook sometime ago when I noticed an acute "icky" feeling every time I used it. Whether it was the posts complaining about whatever the latest outrage was (Supreme Court legalizing same sex marriage, etc) or the barrage of games, or whatever else, the signal to noise ratio was awful. That was about a year ago. I don't miss it, and I don't feel that I'm missing anything. I think there are plenty of nic…
where are said aggregators of content?