Thermal camera footage allegedly shows pro cyclists using motors

Post by dalke » Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 9:52 AM UTC

lmm wrote: post #193

dalke wrote: post #167

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> there is no actual line between the use of gears and the use of motors. There's a very clear line in this case. Cycling is a human powered sport. Battery, gasoline, nuclear, and other power sources are not allowed. This is why mopeds are not allowed. Also prohibited is temporary power storage like a capacitor or spring, which might be used for regenerative braking. You can put all the motors you want on your bike (…

> There's a very clear line in this case. Cycling is a human powered sport. Battery, gasoline, nuclear, and other power sources are not allowed. This is why mopeds are not allowed. Also prohibited is temporary power storage like a capacitor or spring, which might be used for regenerative braking. Doesn't a derailleur have to have a spring in it? And any chain will have a certain amount of tension that allows it to st…

Post by danielsamuels » Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 10:00 AM UTC

PeterStuer wrote: post #155

Let's be clear. This is 100% cheating in races and can not be condoned. Otoh, I don't get the outrage by someone like Eddy Merckx, calling for a lifelong ban on Femke Van Den Driessche , the young female cyclist that was found to have a bike with an seatpost motor in her materials stand. You have to realize Merckx himself was caught several times on doping, receiving only mild punishments, and also one of those ex-ra…

Post by terryf » Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 10:12 AM UTC

ddispaltro wrote: post #125

bigiain wrote: post #101

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Why ban steroids? Why ban amphetamines? Whyban surgical modification? Why ban genetic engineering? Why ban motorised exo skeletons and nano technology? (I just read a great short story along these lines called ""Slipping" by Lauren Brookes - from the EFF'S PWNING TOMORROW short fiction anthology...)

You have to ban things that are outright bad for athletes. You also have to remember, given a competition people will do whatever it takes to win, because someone else will. So you have to draw the line somewhere.

Post by rplnt » Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 10:22 AM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #64

Just take the bike out of the race entirely. Declare a year in advance that the bike will be XYZ model Q so people can train on them, and the race maintains custody of all race bikes, spares, etc. It's already a money-competition to see who can buy the best super-bike. Yes, you have to have a minimum weight, but that just means that you can take a superbike and spend the extra weight applying aerodynamic fairings whe…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 10:25 AM UTC

dzhiurgis wrote: post #75

wl wrote: post #69

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The last time I bought a new bicycle, I had to try a lot of them before I found one I really enjoyed. I'd imagine world-class cyclists are even pickier than I am.

The biggest differentiator is height. I assume taller people have more muscle power hence should be put in different category.