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Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

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Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

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Post by azazqadir »

wstrange wrote: post #60
nikolay wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What "deep understanding" when it works with VMs within GCE only?! This is a marketing description, not a technical one. The features I mentioned are not "niche", they are basic among CDNs and both Google and AWS seem to offer the worse and totally impractical CDNs. Honestly, if Google Cloud offers a CDN comparable with Fastly, I may consider a move, but for a CloudFront copycat (well, a copycat of Gen. 1) - thanks,…

Honest question: Have you actually used GCE for any length of time? Having used both AWS and GCE, and I vastly prefer GCE. It is simply easier to use and offers better price/performance.

I have used both GCE and AWS. Current I have website that is hosted on GCE, but I am using Cloudways managed platform because I am not good with server configuration thing. GCE is definitely better in performance and cheaper in pricing than AWS. Their block storage is more than AWS and they have native load-balancing technology which AWS does not have have. The only downside I have felt with GCE is that they are present in less regions than AWS. Google should also work on expanding their presence to more regions.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

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Post by azazqadir »

Ensorceled wrote: post #23

"it's already one of the fastest" ... wouldn't we expect a new service, with lots of empty cache tables and available free ram, to be faster than the established players?

They need to show some benchmarks of load testing for this comparison to be fair.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#73

Post by mgnacl »

obulpathi wrote: post #54
nikolay wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What "deep understanding" when it works with VMs within GCE only?! This is a marketing description, not a technical one. The features I mentioned are not "niche", they are basic among CDNs and both Google and AWS seem to offer the worse and totally impractical CDNs. Honestly, if Google Cloud offers a CDN comparable with Fastly, I may consider a move, but for a CloudFront copycat (well, a copycat of Gen. 1) - thanks,…

Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Beats Aws and other cloud providers by miles margin. Also keeping in mind that a service that just entered beta is the fastest by itself is impressive. I would say, let's wait a while before commenting on features.

Edit: retracted, after a closer look at your previous comments.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#74

Post by pcx »

nikolay wrote: post #57
obulpathi wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Beats Aws and other cloud providers by miles margin. Also keeping in mind that a service that just entered beta is the fastest by itself is impressive. I would say, let's wait a while before commenting on features.

I'd chose Azure before Google Cloud if I look for AWS alternative. I see more fruitful imagination in Microsoft than in Google! I am highly disappointed by Google - they've missed so many opportunities when it comes to Cloud Computing! They started the negative trend with the ridiculous and pricey AppEngine! And now they continue to lag severely behind Amazon! Also, if people mostly cared about "the fastest", you'd s…

Google's innovation is what they are doing with Kubernetes. Amazon's ECS is meh when you compare it to Kubernetes. I don't think Azure has done anything yet in this area.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#75

Post by nikolay »

pcx wrote: post #74
nikolay wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd chose Azure before Google Cloud if I look for AWS alternative. I see more fruitful imagination in Microsoft than in Google! I am highly disappointed by Google - they've missed so many opportunities when it comes to Cloud Computing! They started the negative trend with the ridiculous and pricey AppEngine! And now they continue to lag severely behind Amazon! Also, if people mostly cared about "the fastest", you'd s…

Google's innovation is what they are doing with Kubernetes. Amazon's ECS is meh when you compare it to Kubernetes. I don't think Azure has done anything yet in this area.

True, but you don't need GCE to run Kubernetes. Also, given GCE is more rudimentary, you need Kubernetest with GCE more than you need it with AWS. For example, if you want to run Elasticsearch or a video transcoding service, you need something like Kubernetes on GCE, but you already get a managed service from AWS that does this well.

With Lambda, API Gateway, WAF, and ECS, DynamoDB or RDS, you pretty much can cover 95% of the usage scenarios.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#76

Post by nikolay »

azazqadir wrote: post #71
wstrange wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Have you actually used GCE for any length of time? Having used both AWS and GCE, and I vastly prefer GCE. It is simply easier to use and offers better price/performance.

I have used both GCE and AWS. Current I have website that is hosted on GCE, but I am using Cloudways managed platform because I am not good with server configuration thing. GCE is definitely better in performance and cheaper in pricing than AWS. Their block storage is more than AWS and they have native load-balancing technology which AWS does not have have. The only downside I have felt with GCE is that they are pres…

Well, there's spot instance pricing and reserved instances with AWS that nobody can touch. What "native load balancing" are you referring to that has no equivalent with AWS? There are many options for EBS - including magnetic storage. I doubt you can beat the speed of EBS with provisioned IO! Maybe you weren't using the right type for your need!

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

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Post by nikolay »

wstrange wrote: post #61
nikolay wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd chose Azure before Google Cloud if I look for AWS alternative. I see more fruitful imagination in Microsoft than in Google! I am highly disappointed by Google - they've missed so many opportunities when it comes to Cloud Computing! They started the negative trend with the ridiculous and pricey AppEngine! And now they continue to lag severely behind Amazon! Also, if people mostly cared about "the fastest", you'd s…

Last time I priced out AWS, Azure and GCE, Azure was by far the most expensive - by a long shot - at least for our usage. I think Microsoft is looking to capture their F500 base that are highly Windows/AD-centric.

Well, I guess, GCE has won the price war. I haven't checked pricing recently, but it looks vastly cheaper than Azure here: https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp

Am I missing something?

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#78

Post by boulos »

azazqadir wrote: post #71
wstrange wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Have you actually used GCE for any length of time? Having used both AWS and GCE, and I vastly prefer GCE. It is simply easier to use and offers better price/performance.

I have used both GCE and AWS. Current I have website that is hosted on GCE, but I am using Cloudways managed platform because I am not good with server configuration thing. GCE is definitely better in performance and cheaper in pricing than AWS. Their block storage is more than AWS and they have native load-balancing technology which AWS does not have have. The only downside I have felt with GCE is that they are pres…

You're in luck: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/03/announcing-two-... (Oregon and Japan this year, more to come)

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#79

Post by azazqadir »

boulos wrote: post #78
azazqadir wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used both GCE and AWS. Current I have website that is hosted on GCE, but I am using Cloudways managed platform because I am not good with server configuration thing. GCE is definitely better in performance and cheaper in pricing than AWS. Their block storage is more than AWS and they have native load-balancing technology which AWS does not have have. The only downside I have felt with GCE is that they are pres…

You're in luck: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/03/announcing-two-... (Oregon and Japan this year, more to come)

That's a great news. The article mentions that more will be added throughout 2017, this means GCE is slowly catching up with AWS.

Re: Google CDN Beta is already one of the fastest CDNs

#80

Post by boulos »

mgnacl wrote: post #73
obulpathi wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Beats Aws and other cloud providers by miles margin. Also keeping in mind that a service that just entered beta is the fastest by itself is impressive. I would say, let's wait a while before commenting on features.

Edit: retracted, after a closer look at your previous comments.

Aww, he's just excited! He really does work for Monsanto, not Google and if you go back far enough you'll see he's used AWS, GCP, and Open Stack (and seems to enjoy meditation). So he's not some sort of shill, just a happy customer!

Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.

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