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Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#21
post #19

Can someone explain to me what bots are for. It looks like using something similar to a REST API over Telegram. Whats the point / use / advantage of that?

Bots offer a gateway between human language and API actions. The future (which VC's are very excited about) is one where the human language commands evolve into something non-syntax specific.

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#22
post #19

Can someone explain to me what bots are for. It looks like using something similar to a REST API over Telegram. Whats the point / use / advantage of that?

Bots offer a gateway between human language and API actions. The future (which VC's are very excited about) is one where the human language commands evolve into something non-syntax specific.

So like a Google search?

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#23
post #19

Can someone explain to me what bots are for. It looks like using something similar to a REST API over Telegram. Whats the point / use / advantage of that?

Bots offer a gateway between human language and API actions. The future (which VC's are very excited about) is one where the human language commands evolve into something non-syntax specific.

> something non-syntax specific.

What do you mean by "non-syntax specific"?

- loose syntax, as in human language, which we can parse although it is loose (e.g. I went to the shop, I went to shop, I went to de shop - all are parseable by humans to get the same meaning [1])

OR

- something else?

[1] except that "I went to shop" could also mean "I went shopping" - but ignore that for now, it's just not a good an example.

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#24
post #19

Can someone explain to me what bots are for. It looks like using something similar to a REST API over Telegram. Whats the point / use / advantage of that?

Bots offer a gateway between human language and API actions. The future (which VC's are very excited about) is one where the human language commands evolve into something non-syntax specific.

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Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#25
post #19

Can someone explain to me what bots are for. It looks like using something similar to a REST API over Telegram. Whats the point / use / advantage of that?

We at Microsoft think about bots as somewhat "intelligent", as in - they understand your intent. There's a little example chat with a pizza bot: It's a subtle difference, but being able to have a conversation vs navigating a flow chart is pretty powerful for a bunch of applications.

Hey pizza bot!

> Hey Jeremy! The usual tonight?

Nah, I'd like to try something new

> We have added three new items:

> 1) Hawaiian

> 2) BBQ

> 3) The Works

Option 3 please.

> Shall I send this to your home?

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#27
Telegram user here. I'm not anti-bot but puh-lease, spend this money on audited open-source crypto and secret-by-default chats rather than gimmicks like 'stickers' (yuk) and rewards for promising bots.

I want a messaging app that's simple, secure, open and cross-device. Not one that's splurging on daft bloatware features while the key issues go unaddressed.

[edit] to clarify the term 'cross-device' - I mean I want to see my conversations on my phone, tablet and laptop and easily swap from one device to another. Platform support is a separate, also-important issue that Telegram already has nailed.

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

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post #27

Telegram user here. I'm not anti-bot but puh-lease, spend this money on audited open-source crypto and secret-by-default chats rather than gimmicks like 'stickers' (yuk) and rewards for promising bots. I want a messaging app that's simple, secure, open and cross-device. Not one that's splurging on daft bloatware features while the key issues go unaddressed. [edit] to clarify the term 'cross-device' - I mean I want to…

So basically what you want is Signal then:

iOS https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/signal-private-messenger/id8...

Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcri...

[Blatant plug] If you want more info on managing digital/physical security threats, check out an open source free app we just launched called Umbrella: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.secfirst.u...

Re: Telegram to award grants to bot developers

#30
post #27

Telegram user here. I'm not anti-bot but puh-lease, spend this money on audited open-source crypto and secret-by-default chats rather than gimmicks like 'stickers' (yuk) and rewards for promising bots. I want a messaging app that's simple, secure, open and cross-device. Not one that's splurging on daft bloatware features while the key issues go unaddressed. [edit] to clarify the term 'cross-device' - I mean I want to…

So basically what you want is Signal then: iOS https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/signal-private-messenger/id8... Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcri... [Blatant plug] If you want more info on managing digital/physical security threats, check out an open source free app we just launched called Umbrella: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.secfirst.u...

I figured someone would say that. I want actual cross-device, not Signal's weird "link your phone up to your MacBook" solution. So not Signal as it presently stands.

Also (last time I checked; maybe it has improved) Signal's support for inline media within conversations was light years behind Telegram.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud Signal's focus on security, but its usability simply isn't there yet.

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