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Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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As an American I would be far more concerned about a leader who knows little and makes airs of knowing more than an intelligent leader who dumbs themself down... The latter has an outside shot at being wise; the former has an outside shot at being dangerous .

As an American I'll remind you that we have relatively recent experience with the latter type, and it mostly did not go well.

That's why I said outside shot.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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How dare he educate himself on the subject of his government's funding?! /s P.S: I didn't mean to be snarky. Any politician that educates himself to even appear smart , instead of trying come off as anti-intellectual "joe six-pack" or simply a spin master (see: Trudeau's predecessor) is progress to me.

You don't think him reciting a canned script made to give the impression of expertise and closing with "I could talk about this for ages..." is deceptive? He was talking like he was well-versed in the subject, when he had really just read some cliff notes.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by humor.

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While I agree with your points about him debating more in sound bytes than in real answers... In fairness he's actually been doing reasonably well on his promises, as tracked by the TrudeauMetre[1]. Off the top of my head, unmuzzling scientists, restoring the long form census, and legalizing marijuana are all big contentious points that are either done or seriously underway. Given the abysmal promise-to-result ratio…

219 promises tracked: 29 achieved 15 broken 63 in progress 112 not started So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Legalizing marijuana is in progress, but I've heard nothing concrete. Unmuzzling scientists and restoring the long form…

>So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians.

Sadly that's not that bad. For example you can check Ukraines MP's promises[1]. It's in Ukrainian, so yellow is WIP, green/red are self-explanatory and black is total.

[1] http://www.slovoidilo.ua/ratings/persons/parliament/all/inde...

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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I'm going to assume someone gave him notes prior to the interview and he read them so he would sound like he knew what he was on about. Having said that, I would pay for the comedic value of seeing GW Bush string that sentence together (even if someone else did prepare it for him).

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Jesus... I was hoping atleast HN wouldn't give Trudeau a press blowjob. I'm from Canada and he is the most incompetent PM we've ever had. If you want to know what the future has for Canada with him as PM, look no further than the most indebted sub-sovereign in the world: Ontario. These guys are corrupt as fuck

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Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Same here. Another big one is the stimulus he's released with the new budget. I'm not sure how he's doing on the Syrian refugee count, but just his attitude to the problem is such a relief compared to Harper.

What was Harper's attitude on Syrian refugees? I seem to recall he said Trudeau's goal of 10000 before the end of 2015 was unrealistic, and that's exactly what it turned out to be. He was going to bring in about the same number Trudeau actually managed to bring in.

Harper promised to bring in 10k over 4 years. Trudeau promised more than double that.

And as I said, the Harper government's attitude to refugee claimants was just disgusting. This is what Harper's Minister of Immigration had to say when the Ontario govt defied the federal government's decision to reduce health care for refugee claimants:

"I've expressed our government's disappointment with the Ontario government's recent decision to reinstate health-care benefits to all asylum seekers and even rejected refugee claimants," Alexander said.

"Simply arriving on our shores and claiming hardships isn't good enough. This isn't a self-selection bonanza, or a social program buffet."

It's embarrassing that our government would demean and deny refugees their human dignity while they are asking for help.

[1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chris-alexander-scolds-ontar...

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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While I agree with your points about him debating more in sound bytes than in real answers... In fairness he's actually been doing reasonably well on his promises, as tracked by the TrudeauMetre[1]. Off the top of my head, unmuzzling scientists, restoring the long form census, and legalizing marijuana are all big contentious points that are either done or seriously underway. Given the abysmal promise-to-result ratio…

219 promises tracked: 29 achieved 15 broken 63 in progress 112 not started So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Legalizing marijuana is in progress, but I've heard nothing concrete. Unmuzzling scientists and restoring the long form…

Some promises, ex "Bring in 25K Syrian refugees by end of 2015" is considered "Broken" for the purposes of the "Promise Tracker" but the government actually did bring in 25K refugees and counting, they didnt hit the 25K mark until sometime in 2016-02.

So, keep in mind that while that promise may be 'technically broken', they pretty much did what they said they were going to do.

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I think I'm politically on pretty much the opposite side of Carter's "official position", but I would squarely put Carter in the top quarter of American Presidents (for reference, he beats out Polk, whom I appreciate quite a bit, I put Obama hovering about 50% and FDR and Wilson competing for the very bottom). Obviously, the whole affair was botched on many levels, but in the grand scheme of the Carter presidency it…

Wow! FDR at the bottom, below Buchanan, Harding, Fillmore, Pierce, and GW Bush. I shudder to think what your political views are.

FDR was a tyrant. He jailed thousands of american citizens for no reason other than their ethnic heritage (over the objecting counsel of his wife) , tried to swing his dick and pack the supreme Court, and at one point, closed the banks for several days and at the end of it, everyone came out poorer (screwing over the poor the hardest even though ostensibly it was for their sake). In all his actions Roosevelt was the epitome of hubris, never stopping to think as president, "should I really be doing this?". Don't worry, gwb is not that much higher than FDR - FDR is the worst because of the magnitude and unprecedented nature of his executive overreach and the fact that it served as inspiration to future presidents.

One of the better presidents was William Henry Harrison; didn't last long enough to mess things up.

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