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For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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Yet people find it hard to understand why some people might be somewhat offended by a shirt with scantily clad women during a press conference.

Things do not happen in a vacuum and pretending like nothing is wrong isn't going to help anyone get anywhere.

Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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Yet people find it hard to understand why some people might be somewhat offended by a shirt with scantily clad women during a press conference. Things do not happen in a vacuum and pretending like nothing is wrong isn't going to help anyone get anywhere.

The guy wore the shirt to a celebration after working with those co-workers for 10 years. It wasn't intended to look "professional" and I'm pretty sure none of those co-workers were offended. The reason the shirt was a bad idea is that it was easily misinterpreted by people watching the press conference.

Edit: I didn't see it at the time, but this article exactly reflects my perspective on the thing. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/why-a-sh...

Edit2: I agree with bunnymancer's comment as far as it goes. But I don't think the shirt is a very big problem. It would be almost insignificant if it weren't interacting with the big problem we already have.

Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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It sounds terrible. And yet working in he unrelated field of IT I haven't seen it.

I have seen a bunch of assholes in high positions though and have to put up with their idiotic demands and abuse.

So when I read these articles I wonder if it's the same people and how they translate treating male workers like garbage into treating female workers like garbage. It's not misogyny; it's welcome to the workforce and dealing with people above you who are neither competent not deserving of their positions and their power trips and borderline psychopathy.

What do you think? Or are there really nice bosses who are just complete assholes to women with zero crossover?

Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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post #4

It sounds terrible. And yet working in he unrelated field of IT I haven't seen it. I have seen a bunch of assholes in high positions though and have to put up with their idiotic demands and abuse. So when I read these articles I wonder if it's the same people and how they translate treating male workers like garbage into treating female workers like garbage. It's not misogyny; it's welcome to the workforce and dealin…

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Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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post #4

It sounds terrible. And yet working in he unrelated field of IT I haven't seen it. I have seen a bunch of assholes in high positions though and have to put up with their idiotic demands and abuse. So when I read these articles I wonder if it's the same people and how they translate treating male workers like garbage into treating female workers like garbage. It's not misogyny; it's welcome to the workforce and dealin…

Or are there really nice bosses who are just complete assholes to women?

My friend's ex-boss was like that. All the guys at the company thought he was the best boss ever and all the women hated him with a passion.

Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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In the present day and age, where PhD supervisors are given massive amounts of power over their graduate students, such incidents are all too commonplace.

Put more institutional safeguards on the process of awarding doctoral degrees to protect both sides of the inequality.

Re: For Female Astronomers, Sexual Harassment Is a Constant Nightmare

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post #4

It sounds terrible. And yet working in he unrelated field of IT I haven't seen it. I have seen a bunch of assholes in high positions though and have to put up with their idiotic demands and abuse. So when I read these articles I wonder if it's the same people and how they translate treating male workers like garbage into treating female workers like garbage. It's not misogyny; it's welcome to the workforce and dealin…

Yes there are people that act just fine to people they believe are capable or otherwise worthy who are total assholes to those they deem unworthy of their time/effort/care.

Yes sexism really exists and that line of worthiness/unworthiness may be drawn at your genitals.

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