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Re: Snake-oil supplements?

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"snake oil" was not listed. Surprising as it is said to offer real relief for joint pain: http://healthmad.com/alternative/health-benefits-of-snake-oi...

The origin of the term "snake oil salesman" was to disparage people who sold fake snake oil or pushed it for diseases it would not treat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil).

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This is about snake oil, but there's no "negative evidence" line?

I think negative ones aren't even worth including and would confuse it. Also, when they prove really negative like ephedra, don't they usually get banned?

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Good god, I wish there was a visualization like this for everything . Especially if you could input your own parameters and get your own personalized "worth it" line.

Good god indeed - there's a germ of an idea for a Google Labs project right there. And if it worked well, it could change decision making of ALL kinds.

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post #7

This is about snake oil, but there's no "negative evidence" line?

I think negative ones aren't even worth including and would confuse it. Also, when they prove really negative like ephedra, don't they usually get banned?

I was thinking more along the lines of "we tested this, and it doesn't help condition X", not "this will harm you". The article's down now, but I recall the lowest level being "no evidence". That implies that no tests have been done.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think negative ones aren't even worth including and would confuse it. Also, when they prove really negative like ephedra, don't they usually get banned?

Ephdra is not banned in the US, it's merely restricted. It's still available over the counter in Canada as well.

It's definitely banned in the US. There are some "safe ephedra" products which are actually some other stimulant - usually bitter orange.

Re: Snake-oil supplements?

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Two words: "healthy diet." That's all you need. If you have that, you don't need supplements.

I think I understand where you're coming from, and I mostly agree. However, I think it is a mistake to generalize from the idea that most supplementation is misguided, to the idea that all of it is.

For example, consider vitamin D. Humans make this in their skin, using sunlight. Now, what about those of us who live far from the equator and work indoors? For some time, the standard answer to this has been fortified milk. Okay, but most people in the world lack the mutation that lets most northern Europeans, and some Africans, digest milk sugar as adults. With the limited options available, vitamin D supplements start looking like a worthwhile option.

And then there are the non-nutrient supplements. A healthy diet should get you most of your vitamins, etc., but it won't get you the antidepressant found in St. John's wort. And it might not get you the probiotics that can combat H. Pylori infections, or the stuff in cinammon that seems to be effective against some kinds of diabetes.

Re: Snake-oil supplements?

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Hmm, two on there I use:

1. Vitamin E for nerves. Not nervousness, but things like a little random twitching, especially right below an eye. Clears it up in a few days.

2. Melatonin for sleep regulation. Never more than 3 days straight, but it's a really nice reset switch for sleep if I've been hacking late nights recently.

Of course, ymmv..

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I was wondering why Green Tea is on there three times until I realized you can click on each circle to see what symptoms its referring to.

If you prefer to see the chart with that already on there, use this version: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-o...
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