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Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Trudeau did complete two years of engineering at a decent school and worked as a math teacher.

While we don't know if he was prepped or regurgitated a paragraph, he probably has the faculties and interest to have a general understanding of what he was talking about. Oftentimes it's easier to actually learn something than to cheat convincingly.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Even if Trudeau learned the definition the morning of, it speaks well of his background in engineering and math that he was able to assimilate such information and reformulate it coherently. Presenting a technical subject at just the right level of sophistication for a given audience is an invigorating intellectual exercise.

> Presenting a technical subject at just the right level of sophistication for a given audience I don't think the limiting factor here was the intelligence of the audience , given that he was presenting at the Perimeter Institute. That being said, I agree completely on your first point, and it's incredibly refreshing to see a politician make an effort to learn about a technical subject.

> I don't think the limiting factor here was the intelligence of the audience, given that he was presenting at the Perimeter Institute.

As the PM, his audience is always far larger than those in the immediate vicinity. Not to mention the gaggle of non-technical journalists who were there.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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I think the take-away here is not what so much what PM Trudeau knows or doesn't know about quantum computing. It reveals how low our expectations are of our leaders.

Low expectations against what historical standard?

Well the fact that this is a viral news item implies that this is unexpected.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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I guess I'm bothered by the fact that he implied that he was more than casually educated on the subject he was talking about...

As an American, where most of our politicians eagerly jostle for the title of Stupidest Human, the fact that the PM was trying to appear smart raises him up several notches. He considers intelligence to be something worthy. That's refreshing and admirable.

As an American I would be far more concerned about a leader who knows little and makes airs of knowing more than an intelligent leader who dumbs themself down... The latter has an outside shot at being wise; the former has an outside shot at being dangerous.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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How dare he educate himself on the subject of his government's funding?! /s P.S: I didn't mean to be snarky. Any politician that educates himself to even appear smart , instead of trying come off as anti-intellectual "joe six-pack" or simply a spin master (see: Trudeau's predecessor) is progress to me.

You don't think him reciting a canned script made to give the impression of expertise and closing with "I could talk about this for ages..." is deceptive? He was talking like he was well-versed in the subject, when he had really just read some cliff notes.

It was a joke.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Damn, the Canadians must be so proud to have such an awesome leader. video link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZBLSjF56S8

Yes, this is a great achievement. But there are precedents - the Singapore PM is a Senior Wrangler [1], a former Indian president was a rocket scientist [2] - oh, and some nasty fellow in the middle east was an ophthalmologist in London [3], lest we forget. I believe technical competence is uncorrelated to adminisitrative effectiveness. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

> I believe technical competence is uncorrelated to adminisitrative effectiveness.

I don't. Many Asian nations (including Singapore, China, etc.) are largely governed by engineering majors and I do believe this has been helpful for improving administrative effectiveness. This stands in stark contrast to countries where governance is dominated by either lawyers (the US) or military members (many other developing nations).

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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I think the take-away here is not what so much what PM Trudeau knows or doesn't know about quantum computing. It reveals how low our expectations are of our leaders.

I don't know for sure, but I think it is reasonable to assume Jimmy Carter knows a fair bit about quantum mechanics.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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How dare he educate himself on the subject of his government's funding?! /s P.S: I didn't mean to be snarky. Any politician that educates himself to even appear smart , instead of trying come off as anti-intellectual "joe six-pack" or simply a spin master (see: Trudeau's predecessor) is progress to me.

You don't think him reciting a canned script made to give the impression of expertise and closing with "I could talk about this for ages..." is deceptive? He was talking like he was well-versed in the subject, when he had really just read some cliff notes.

Nobody could watch the clip and thing Trudeau is actually an expert in quantum computing. He was clearly joking about being able to talk about it for ages.

He came across as an intelligent and funny politician who had made the effort to at least develop a modicum of understanding for something he's funding. Nothing more and nothing less.

Re: Grading Trudeau on quantum computing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How dare he educate himself on the subject of his government's funding?! /s P.S: I didn't mean to be snarky. Any politician that educates himself to even appear smart , instead of trying come off as anti-intellectual "joe six-pack" or simply a spin master (see: Trudeau's predecessor) is progress to me.

You don't think him reciting a canned script made to give the impression of expertise and closing with "I could talk about this for ages..." is deceptive? He was talking like he was well-versed in the subject, when he had really just read some cliff notes.

I didn't take the "I could talk about this for ages..." to mean he knew everything about it, merely that this is something he found interesting enough to talk (to people) about for ages.
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