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I had a (medication induced) experience similar to the author's, with similar perception of radical changes in the motivations/intentions of my coworkers and friends, but mostly I remember it being like bright light was turned on in a dim room, my new awareness of others emotions changed a lot of my assumptions about their thoughts, the effects lasted a few days. I'd rather be more in tune with reality, if new techno…
May I ask what medication triggered this experience for you?
What It’s Like to ‘Wake Up’ from Autism After Magnetic Stimulation
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#162So, funny that on hacker news and lots of programming blogs when this topic comes up a lot of people chime in about being on the (autistic side) of the spectrum too. Ironically, I feel left out. I am on the other end of the spectrum. Kind of like what this guy described after the treatment, although I've been dealing with it my whole life, so I don't get all worried. I feel like the only programmer who is intensely a…
But after a long diagnostic process combined with reading up on autism and in particular about the Intense World theory ([quick introduction][1], I became pretty convinced that 1) autism is hella complicated and still not well understood, and 2) it may well be that autism, or at least a subtype of autism we might one day discern, is the opposite of how we commonly think of it. It's not a blindness to emotions or inability to empathize that is autism, rather it's (too) high sensitivity expressed poorly, especially in men with autism. Like wearing night-vision goggles on a bright day.
And the thing is, not only is this much more fitting to how autists tend to self-report their experiences (which is thankfully something that is finally listened to), but there's existing and growing evidence too.
For example, a significant portion of autists score as high or higher on 'affective empathy'. It's the interpretation where they go wrong (cognitive empathy). Or when it comes to eye contact, it's not so much that autists lack the social skills or mirroring ability to understand that this is important, but rather that it's too intense. Mind, I'm not saying all autists are like this, but this is how I would describe it when it comes to my issues with eye contact, and almost every autist I know or have read about says the same (including some who are rather far on the spectrum).
Anyways, the important thing is that you function and are happy. If that's the case, I'd say the diagnosis of autism isn't necessarily beneficial. It can even be detrimental.
I'm reminded of the vulcans in Star Trek. I remember I wanted to be like them because my emotions were becoming too much for me. And only afterwards I watched the episode where their 'true' nature is revealed...
[1]:https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/feeling-too-much/201407...
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#163Some people have argued [1] that it was not his autism, but his alexithymia which was altered by the TMS. Alexithymia is an orthogonal condition: it can occur with or without autism. Believing that a "cure" for autism is required is also a rejection of neuro-atypicality as a valid state of being, which is a common form of subconscious Ablism (discrimination against disabled people). That is not to say that no autisti…
I'm going to come out and say that this is no different than a person born without arms claiming that they're not disabled, that they're not damaged. To claim we shouldn't cure autism because doing so would "reject neuro-atypicality as a valid state of being" (a typical non-statement) is as absurd as saying we shouldn't grow people new limbs (assuming we had the capability) because it's a rejection of amputeeism as a…
But this is very much not the case with milder forms of autism. Many high-functioning autists can take care of themselves and even have very successful careers, and there are a number of characteristics typical of autism that are very beneficial to the 'sufferer' and/or society.
I'd say autism, or at least some forms of autism, are like being born with wings. In a society made for arms you have a clear disability. But if you find your way and the right environment, well, you might be able to fly and provide things that 'arm-ies' cannot.
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#164Some people have argued [1] that it was not his autism, but his alexithymia which was altered by the TMS. Alexithymia is an orthogonal condition: it can occur with or without autism. Believing that a "cure" for autism is required is also a rejection of neuro-atypicality as a valid state of being, which is a common form of subconscious Ablism (discrimination against disabled people). That is not to say that no autisti…
I'm going to come out and say that this is no different than a person born without arms claiming that they're not disabled, that they're not damaged. To claim we shouldn't cure autism because doing so would "reject neuro-atypicality as a valid state of being" (a typical non-statement) is as absurd as saying we shouldn't grow people new limbs (assuming we had the capability) because it's a rejection of amputeeism as a…
You might want to look at the social model of disability, because there are people who do say this. For example, wheelchair using disability rights campaigners have often said that their wheelchairs are not the problem, but the lack of ramps in shops and workplaces is what causes them to be disabled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_model_of_disability
That's not a new concept; it's been around since the 1970s.
Re: What It’s Like to ‘Wake Up’ from Autism After Magnetic Stimulation
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm going to come out and say that this is no different than a person born without arms claiming that they're not disabled, that they're not damaged. To claim we shouldn't cure autism because doing so would "reject neuro-atypicality as a valid state of being" (a typical non-statement) is as absurd as saying we shouldn't grow people new limbs (assuming we had the capability) because it's a rejection of amputeeism as a…
> I'm going to come out and say that this is no different than a person born without arms claiming that they're not disabled, that they're not damaged. You might want to look at the social model of disability, because there are people who do say this. For example, wheelchair using disability rights campaigners have often said that their wheelchairs are not the problem, but the lack of ramps in shops and workplaces is…
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Magnetic stimulation isn't going to radically change your entire brain. As I understand it it just changed that one symptom of autism by stimulating a single brain area. As I understand it the treatment is temporary, so it's not like you have to stay that way if you don't like it. And if I could experiment with inducing autism in myself I totally would. I'm going to research this treatment more because it sounds tota…
"if I could experiment with inducing autism in myself I totally would" You can. You distance yourself from people, suggesting yourself over and over that you don't really need much social interaction, communicate with people only outside perceptions and feelings and the entire world around you starts to change. Each time you'll catch yourself analyzing emotions you'll stop due to its error-prone nature and switch to…
I've spent most of my twenties pursuing social interaction because I felt that I should and that it would be healthy. I even had a few girlfriends, which was all kinds of agonizing. At the end of my twenties I 'took a break'. To my surprise I discovered that I felt so much happier with a life that, too outsiders, was lonely and sad. The 'break' became a new way of life for me.
However, first of all I don't regret pushing myself to socialize. I learned many skills that I feel I wouldn't have learned had I not pushed myself. I can be comfortably normal when I need to, and that gives me many advantages.
Second, even though I'm quite happy being mostly alone, I definitely notice that I a more healthy person if I force myself into some social interaction (including deeper personal and emotional connections).
For me it's a bit like eating. Much of the time I don't really eat well or enough unless I force myself to. But when I do, I have more energy and and a better general sense of well-being. Similarly, when I forego socializing and/or fostering some deeper emotional connections, I have a tendency to spend way too much time thinking about unimportant things, I forget to properly verbalize or structure my thoughts into something 'worthwhile', and my rhythm and structure disappears, including normal sleep. Even minimal interaction with others in the form of flatmates or meetups significantly alleviates much of the bad stuff.
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#167I'm on the spectrum and don't feel any emotional disconnect unless my blood sugar drops (usually from forgetting to eat or sleep.) When that happens, it's like part of my brain just... goes to sleep. I'm still awake, but I have a really hard time producing or sensing any emotions. My loved ones tell me 'it's like talking to a robot and not [PhineasTCat].' The weirdest part is I can physically feel that part of my bra…
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Such a broad question doesn't admit of an easy answer, but if I was going to put in a single sentence I'd say dating was hell but sex is fine. No idea whether autistic people are more or less prone to be into kinky sex but my hunch is more.
What about simpler affectionate interactions ? dating and sex were already way beyond what I had in mind. Autism impossibility of emotional interaction would be at odds with simple hugging. And in my view, hugging is a prototype of sexual relationship (pure pleasure sex left of the discussion).
In fact, I'd go so far as saying that having sex is one of the few 'states' in which I feel that I can just let go and do the right things. It's one of the things I love about sex!
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm going to come out and say that this is no different than a person born without arms claiming that they're not disabled, that they're not damaged. You might want to look at the social model of disability, because there are people who do say this. For example, wheelchair using disability rights campaigners have often said that their wheelchairs are not the problem, but the lack of ramps in shops and workplaces is…
Makes sense, that folks have been fooling themselves since the '70s. It was that kind of decade.
It's created large amounts of social change. American disability law derives from it, for one example.
Here's a cite from UK goverment mentioning the social model: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2010-to-2015-gove...
> We encourage the use of the social model as a way of understanding disability. It says that disability is created by barriers in society.
> The barriers generally fall into 3 categories:
> the environment – including inaccessible buildings and services
> people’s attitudes – stereotyping, discrimination and prejudice
> organisations – inflexible policies, practices and procedures
You probably need to be aware of this, because not being aware of it creates a risk if you ever have any management role.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Makes sense, that folks have been fooling themselves since the '70s. It was that kind of decade.
It's a simple concept. How can I help you understand it? It's created large amounts of social change. American disability law derives from it, for one example. Here's a cite from UK goverment mentioning the social model: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2010-to-2015-gove... > We encourage the use of the social model as a way of understanding disability. It says that disability is created by barriers in soci…
A disability is when you have less ability than everybody else. We can mitigate that by addressing {everything you list above}.