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Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

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Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#23
"911 Metallurgist, which helps mines and recyclers extract precious metals from ore and, apparently, phones, has exhaustively checked the iPhones and other mobile devices. Each iPhone 5, for instance, contains $1.58 of gold, $.36 of silver, $.05 of platinum, and $.12 of copper."

I'd posit the missing 644 pounds (<1kg) is platinum.

Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#24
post #13

In metric countries (like Australia) Apple does publish the numbers in kg: https://www.apple.com/au/environment/resources/ :)

But they've clearly been converted to pounds, then back to kilograms. Lead 19,994 Tin 1,999 Silver 2,999 Gold 1,000

Interesting. For the UK they just say 1 tonne, 2 tonnes, etc - https://www.apple.com/uk/environment/resources/

So everyone’s trying to play this as some conspiracy of fictional numbers. All we’ve actually found is that Apple do localize their site, and possibly some weaknesses in how they do so.

Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#25
No luck finding the 644 missing pounds but I do note that the PDF version of the document (I assume the original) reports the steel figure as 23,101,000 instead of 28,101,000 . That however seems to be a typo that was fixed later.

I'm guesses the missing 644 pounds is platinum. Several articles on Liam talk about the metal but it is not included in the list, presumably for space reasons.

http://images.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_...

Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#26
This reminds me of the elevation of Mt Everest as determined in 1856:

> Peak XV (measured in feet) was calculated to be exactly 29,000 ft (8,839.2 m) high, but was publicly declared to be 29,002 ft (8,839.8 m) in order to avoid the impression that an exact height of 29,000 feet (8,839.2 m) was nothing more than a rounded estimate

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest

Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#28
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they've clearly been converted to pounds, then back to kilograms. Lead 19,994 Tin 1,999 Silver 2,999 Gold 1,000

Interesting. For the UK they just say 1 tonne, 2 tonnes, etc - https://www.apple.com/uk/environment/resources/ So everyone’s trying to play this as some conspiracy of fictional numbers. All we’ve actually found is that Apple do localize their site, and possibly some weaknesses in how they do so.

Which is kinda interesting in itself.

Re: Apple's amusingly round reuse figures

#30
I find it very amusing that Apple is boasting about reducing the size of packaging, but they're still shipping accessories from their online store out in boxes about 15 times larger than required.

http://i.imgur.com/sMyvO6o.jpg

I've noticed this not only with their packaging for third party accessories, but also for first party ones like the new Magic Mouse 2

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