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India's Plan to Bring Digital Banking to 1.2B People

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Re: India's Plan to Bring Digital Banking to 1.2B People

#11

Audacious plan? That would be getting their 1.2 Billion people reasonable access to fresh water and indoor plumbing.

So any other plans should be put on hold while doing this?

Access to sanitary facilities has been one of the prime agendas of Modi's elections and he is delivering on it too.

http://qz.com/505276/narendra-modis-most-popular-move-so-far...

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Seems like India is leap-frogging way past where the U.S. financial system is. On the other hand, I worry if all this personal ID data got hacked.

They seem to be starting from scratch and the U.S. financial system is probably the worst system available in first world countries so it makes sense that they'd skip it.

It'd be fantastic if the U.S. would follow their example and take more than baby steps out of the 20th century.

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In a country where genocide and sectarian violence are a regular occurrence†, I am sure that a detailed database of religious affiliation, biometrics, photographs, and addresses won't be misused. Much like the Dutch census, history will look back at this registry of citizens with horror. † http://time.com/3545867/india-1984-sikh-genocide-anniversary... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/narendr... h…

Since you conveniently decided to not show violent acts against Indian Hindus, here are some links on Anti-Hindu violence for sake of completeness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Islamic_terrorism_in_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India#Re... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Kashmiri_H... https://en.wikipedia.org…

I think GP was pointing out the fact that people in power are infact hindu nationalists who can misuse power. Islamic terrorists are not in power, hindu nationalists are.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you conveniently decided to not show violent acts against Indian Hindus, here are some links on Anti-Hindu violence for sake of completeness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Islamic_terrorism_in_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India#Re... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Kashmiri_H... https://en.wikipedia.org…

I think GP was pointing out the fact that people in power are infact hindu nationalists who can misuse power. Islamic terrorists are not in power, hindu nationalists are.

I didn't know opinion articles from The Gaurdian count as facts. The other wiki pages about Christian Church burning has no link to the government in power. Not sure what the implication was there. The Sikh riots did not have a religious motivation, rather a fallout of operation Bluestar and the resulting assassination of Indiri Gandhi (A congress leader, the party which is supposedly far left on cultural issues. Their party members killed 2500+ Sikhs in 1984.) Not sure what the connection to BJP there was either.

According to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_on_T._J._Joseph

it was a Muslim who cut off a Christian professor's hand in South India. His wife committed suicide because he was fired. Of course BBC, Gaurdian, Firstpost and all other far left websites will not report this. On censorship happy sites like HN and reddit they have successfully created massive propaganda against the Indian government. I can spout nonsense as facts too. Here are example of some 'facts' for you then:

Maybe Obama is a Muslim according to this: http://www.conservapedia.com/Obama's_Religion

Maybe Merkel is a traitor according to this: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/29/hundreds-germans-...

Maybe Bernie Sanders is a communist according to this: http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sander...

OP is parroting the conspiracy theory that millions (still a small % compared to India's billion+ population) do because they cannot digest seeing Modi in power. I can go full conspiracy mode and point out who owns left wing media outlets but I don't think HN is a place for such discussions. There are hundreds of report of Hindus being killed in minority rich areas in India, but unfortunately these incidents aren't covered in BBC and Gaurdian because Hindus are a dying majority in India.

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think GP was pointing out the fact that people in power are infact hindu nationalists who can misuse power. Islamic terrorists are not in power, hindu nationalists are.

I didn't know opinion articles from The Gaurdian count as facts. The other wiki pages about Christian Church burning has no link to the government in power. Not sure what the implication was there. The Sikh riots did not have a religious motivation, rather a fallout of operation Bluestar and the resulting assassination of Indiri Gandhi (A congress leader, the party which is supposedly far left on cultural issues. The…

>because Hindus are a dying majority in India.

Curious what you meant by that. Care to explain?

Re: India's Plan to Bring Digital Banking to 1.2B People

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In a country where genocide and sectarian violence are a regular occurrence†, I am sure that a detailed database of religious affiliation, biometrics, photographs, and addresses won't be misused. Much like the Dutch census, history will look back at this registry of citizens with horror. † http://time.com/3545867/india-1984-sikh-genocide-anniversary... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/narendr... h…

After my discussions with Srikanth Nadhamuni I understand there to be no religious data in the UID database. I also haven't read anywhere that this is the case.

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In a country where genocide and sectarian violence are a regular occurrence†, I am sure that a detailed database of religious affiliation, biometrics, photographs, and addresses won't be misused. Much like the Dutch census, history will look back at this registry of citizens with horror. † http://time.com/3545867/india-1984-sikh-genocide-anniversary... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/narendr... h…

After my discussions with Srikanth Nadhamuni I understand there to be no religious data in the UID database. I also haven't read anywhere that this is the case.

It will be linked to their national census which records religious data.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/151015/nation-current-affairs...

Re: India's Plan to Bring Digital Banking to 1.2B People

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The plan is based on a national identity system with 80% penetration:

> So far, India's attempt to assign every citizen a unique 12-digit number associated with a person's unique iris, fingerprint or facial features, is succeeding—just last week, Aadhaar reached its milestone of registering 1 billion people. With more than 80 percent of Indians enrolled, it gives the payments system a solid base to build on.

This reminds me of an article I read awhile back talking about the things that technology has made disappear. Farms. Factories. Horses. Many diseases. And so on. It ended with the question: what fixtures of current life are likely to disappear in the future?

A commenter responded with one word: "privacy."

Re: India's Plan to Bring Digital Banking to 1.2B People

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For toothpaste they were already using other things. And shampoo does not have health benefits. Maybe it makes you smell a bit better, but rural Indians don't care too much about BO even now. ex for toothpaste: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3545237/

I can't even begin to describe how condescending your comment comes across as.

Setting aside the fact that condescending comments aren't mutually exclusive with true ones, I wonder if those packagings weren't "relatively useless" simply for the fact that small packagings ususally tend to be more expensive in the long run. It's more or less the same problem as with poor people in developed countries not being able to save money on batch buys, especially in case of supermarket discounts.
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