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Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Or 1000 kilograms for the rest of the world.

Or simply, one tonne. In fact I'd guess that the engineers, thinking in SI units, told the PR people that 'we recovered a tonne', rounding to that figure for them because it sounds neat. Then the PR people converted to pounds for older readers, which comes out as the very precise sounding 2,204. So the figure is probably rounded but then presented as being much more precise than it is.

Sounds right to me. If you look at Apple's report[1], all the numbers they list for material recovery are exactly divisible by 2204.

EDIT: Correction, all except for the number for recovered steel.

[1] http://images.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_...

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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> Copper is super-cheap, but it moves electrons too slowly for some of the most important computing tasks. Just garbage reporting.

For those who haven't had a physics class, that's garbage because silver is somewhat more conductive than copper, which is slightly more conductive than gold. The main benefit of gold is that it's more stable than copper, so it's a good material for connector contact surfaces, but the bulk of the contact should be something else like copper or steel, depending on the relative importance of electrical or mechanical pr…

By more stable you mean it doesn't oxidize right?

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or simply, one tonne. In fact I'd guess that the engineers, thinking in SI units, told the PR people that 'we recovered a tonne', rounding to that figure for them because it sounds neat. Then the PR people converted to pounds for older readers, which comes out as the very precise sounding 2,204. So the figure is probably rounded but then presented as being much more precise than it is.

I don't understand this whole "tonne" thing. Why overload a word that already has two other conflicting meanings (the imperial short ton and the imperial long ton) when you already have a word that is more canonical and completely unambiguous in "Megagram"? Plus it just sounds cool.

Unambiguous? As in megabyte?

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this whole "tonne" thing. Why overload a word that already has two other conflicting meanings (the imperial short ton and the imperial long ton) when you already have a word that is more canonical and completely unambiguous in "Megagram"? Plus it just sounds cool.

Because no one has any concept of that unit of measure. They use relatable units of measure, that's where the whole banana for scale thing came from because almost everyone has a grasp on the dimensions of a banana. People know cars weight tons and so a ton is a vastly more relatable unit of measure.

There are few fruits that vary so much in size and shape as does the banana. Has anyone actually suggested using that as a standard for anything?

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this whole "tonne" thing. Why overload a word that already has two other conflicting meanings (the imperial short ton and the imperial long ton) when you already have a word that is more canonical and completely unambiguous in "Megagram"? Plus it just sounds cool.

Unambiguous? As in megabyte?

Yes, it is unambiguous. No one uses binary prefix notation for mass.

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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post #52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those who haven't had a physics class, that's garbage because silver is somewhat more conductive than copper, which is slightly more conductive than gold. The main benefit of gold is that it's more stable than copper, so it's a good material for connector contact surfaces, but the bulk of the contact should be something else like copper or steel, depending on the relative importance of electrical or mechanical pr…

By more stable you mean it doesn't oxidize right?

Yeah, gold is the best for contacts because, as you surmised, it stays clean of oxidation.

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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This is what 1 tonne (2204 LBS) of gold looks like - http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/gold/images/demon...

Yeah, I did some calculating and surprisingly, 1 tonne of gold is somewhat smaller than a 2' cube.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1+tonne+of+gold+in+cub...

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or simply, one tonne. In fact I'd guess that the engineers, thinking in SI units, told the PR people that 'we recovered a tonne', rounding to that figure for them because it sounds neat. Then the PR people converted to pounds for older readers, which comes out as the very precise sounding 2,204. So the figure is probably rounded but then presented as being much more precise than it is.

I don't understand this whole "tonne" thing. Why overload a word that already has two other conflicting meanings (the imperial short ton and the imperial long ton) when you already have a word that is more canonical and completely unambiguous in "Megagram"? Plus it just sounds cool.

Traditional measurement is not quite so simple. (All pounds avoirdupois.)

Short ton: 2000 lb.

Imperial (UK) long ton: 2,240 lb.

Longweight ton: 2400 lb.

I'm in the boat business where a register ton is 100 cubic feet.

There are more, especially once you get to other types of pounds.

Re: Apple recovered 2,204 pounds of gold from broken iPhones last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because no one has any concept of that unit of measure. They use relatable units of measure, that's where the whole banana for scale thing came from because almost everyone has a grasp on the dimensions of a banana. People know cars weight tons and so a ton is a vastly more relatable unit of measure.

There are few fruits that vary so much in size and shape as does the banana. Has anyone actually suggested using that as a standard for anything?

Some online communities use "banana for scale".

Other communities talk about radiation risk in terms of radiotion you get from a banana.

It's about as useful as double-decker buses or football fields.

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